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This post was written In response to GabeU who suggested the post had gone off the rails and as a result copied both of you. This is the response I was writing simultaneously as the thread was closed:

 

You too GabeU are part of the problem on this forum. I understand if you want to help people - if they want your help. But you and MarkJ have no authority to spout off what Hugesnet disclaimers state, tell people they're out-of-line, or speak for Hugesnet on a number of other issues that concern customers. Quite frankly it only creates animosity towards Hugesnet and fuels anger. For the life of me I don't understand how Hugesnet corporate allows this to happen. Using folks like you and MarkJ as a firewall is not only bad publicity but a business model that I feel will only nick away at Hugesnet already thin credibility.
Interesting, that when I read Liz or Amanda's responses to posts they use tact and interpersonal skills to diffuse the issue. It allows people to feel like they're being taken care of. This is in contrast to how you and MarkJ respond when someone complains that their service is down and they're not able to work, sell stock or whatever the situation happens to be. Case in point, during a most recent post you copied and posted Hugesnet's disclaimer and told the customer that Hugesnet owed him nothing. This is not your responsibility. If someone has a complaint like this they should be referred to a Hugesnet employee. If you want to assist with a technical problem and customers are OK with your assistance fine, but if it goes beyond that I suggest you refer them to Liz or Amanda. Both of you are way out-of-line  and it's creating problems. Liz, Amanda, I agree this post has gone off the tracks but it was fueled by what I just stated. I feel some ground rules need to be set and quite frankly it's both of your responsibilities to not let these two get out-of-hand. To sit back and read some of the posts these two write and do nothing about it is a dereliction of your duties as Hugesnet employees. Said another way, both of you are the standard bearers for the company and need to get more involved.  I'd be more than happy to take this to the corporate level along with multiple examples to prove my point if you don't want to deal with it. I don't think this was the original intent of this forum but a lack of oversight allowed it to evolve to this point.

 

 

 

 

 

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skybox wrote:

 

A while back when I had an issue you initially disagreed but over time after Liz got involved it was determined that the spot beam I was on was indeed saturated and was switched to Gen5.  That was when I decided I was through with the so-called community help. 

I disagreed with nothing.  You're making claims of something that never happened.

 

Your posts on this site speak for themselves.  Disruptive posts, hijacking threads, repeatedly circumventing foul language filters and violating community guidelines in doing so, baseless accusations and now personal attacks.  

 

I'm finished with this.  I will continue to give of my time to help those asking for help regardless of your opinion, but I will no longer deal with someone who comports themselves in the manner in which you do.  And one last observation.  You seem to get into disagreements with a lot of people on here.  What, or rather who, is the common denominator?  You may want to think about that.  

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 wrote:

 

A while back when I had an issue you initially disagreed but over time after Liz got involved it was determined that the spot beam I was on was indeed saturated and was switched to Gen5.  That was when I decided I was through with the so-called community help. 

I disagreed with nothing.  You're making claims of something that never happened.

 

Your posts on this site speak for themselves.  Disruptive posts, hijacking threads, repeatedly circumventing foul language filters and violating community guidelines in doing so, baseless accusations and now personal attacks.  

 

I'm finished with this.  I will continue to give of my time to help those asking for help regardless of your opinion, but I will no longer deal with someone who comports themselves in the manner in which you do.  And one last observation.  You seem to get into disagreements with a lot of people on here.  What, or rather who, is the common denominator?  You may want to think about that.  

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That's my whole point with you and MarkJ, my posts may be pointless to you but they're not pointless to me.  I can accept the fact that you may not agree with me, and if you don't agree then please don't respond. Leave it to a Hugesnet employee to respond. Again, feel free to assist those who are looking for technical help but I and many others don't want your opinion. If I have a complaint about lack of service over a three day holiday that's not your concern, period. If a Hugesnet employee wants to respond that's their right, not yours.  Unfortunately, there isn't another forum to voice a complaint only this one. 

And don't accuse me of hijacking threads, MarkJ and I were going back and forth and it was you who jumped in and suggested the thread be closed. What gives you the right to suggest that? Again, you two put your nose where it doesn't belong. I said it before and I'll say it again let Hugesnet employees respond to controversial subject matter. Keep your participation to issues where people ask for help. Beyond that it's not your issue.

 

Lastly, it doesn't matter how I frame a concern. I feel my issues are legitimate whether you agree or not. A while back when I had an issue you initially disagreed but over time after Liz got involved it was determined that the spot beam I was on was indeed saturated and was switched to Gen5.  That was when I decided I was through with the so-called community help. I said this ad nauseam, the only help or response I want is from a Hugesnet employee.  In other words,  you do not have anymore helpful knowledge than I do. I know how to do a speed test, reboot and program my router, check the number of devices on the system etc., and I'm quite familiar with networks.  The kind of help I'm interested in is not saturating a spot beam with so many customers that after 6 PM I can forget about streaming even in standard definition, or when the system fails on a three day holiday someone is there to fix it.  These are issues you or other community members have no control over.  Hence, your opinions are useless to me.   I stand by my assertion that Hugesnet uses people like you as a firewall on controversial issues when it's their job to face and respond to criticism not a so-called community member. Lastly, I didn't start the issue with MarkJ, it was his initial attitude to my post that rubbed me the wrong way and started this long debate.  If this would have been Liz or Amanda they would have immediately diffused my frustration and the issue would have been quickly resolved. MarkJ used a different tactic. This is why community members should only get involved when help is requested.  

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That's my whole point with you and MarkJ, my posts may be pointless to you but they're not pointless to me.  I can accept the fact that you may not agree with me, and if you don't agree then please don't respond. Leave it to a Hugesnet employee to respond. Again, feel free to assist those who are looking for technical help but I and many others don't want your opinion. If I have a complaint about lack of service over a three day holiday that's not your concern, period. If a Hugesnet employee wants to respond that's their right, not yours.  Unfortunately, there isn't another forum to voice a complaint only this one. 

And don't accuse me of hijacking threads, MarkJ and I were going back and forth and it was you who jumped in and suggested the thread be closed. What gives you the right to suggest that? Again, you two put your nose where it doesn't belong. I said it before and I'll say it again let Hugesnet employees respond to controversial subject matter. Keep your participation to issues where people ask for help. Beyond that it's not your issue.

 

Lastly, it doesn't matter how I frame a concern. I feel my issues are legitimate whether you agree or not. A while back when I had an issue you initially disagreed but over time after Liz got involved it was determined that the spot beam I was on was indeed saturated and was switched to Gen5.  That was when I decided I was through with the so-called community help. I said this ad nauseam, the only help or response I want is from a Hugesnet employee.  In other words,  you do not have anymore helpful knowledge than I do. I know how to do a speed test, reboot and program my router, check the number of devices on the system etc., and I'm quite familiar with networks.  The kind of help I'm interested in is not saturating a spot beam with so many customers that after 6 PM I can forget about streaming even in standard definition, or when the system fails on a three day holiday someone is there to fix it.  These are issues you or other community members have no control over.  Hence, your opinions are useless to me.   I stand by my assertion that Hugesnet uses people like you as a firewall on controversial issues when it's their job to face and respond to criticism not a so-called community member. Lastly, I didn't start the issue with MarkJ, it was his initial attitude to my post that rubbed me the wrong way and started this long debate.  If this would have been Liz or Amanda they would have immediately diffused my frustration and the issue would have been quickly resolved. MarkJ used a different tactic. This is why community members should only get involved when help is requested.  

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I never asked for your assistance to begin with.  And if you research my past posts, I believe I had a very legitimate complaint that bore out after six pages of debate with community members and finally Liz.  Do you remember?   After enduring multiple people chiming in about me not cooperating, when the bandwidth charts were finally reviewed my concern was validated. That is, the beam was indeed saturated. If you also recall, this is where you posted the disclaimer I mentioned above in which you just denied. Further, you agreed with MarkJ about a sarcastic remark he made about me. All because I was being persistent and wouldn't accept the technical hyperbole being dished out. So don't act so sanctimonious about all this. I was also called a troll by corrosion, remember now? 

 

So hopefully all the folks you \"cc\" to come to your defense, I sure hope they read how you and MarkJ responded to me during my past issue solidifying why I don't want your help or opinions again. Here is a novel suggestion to avoid this crap in the future. Put another category on the home page titled:  Concerns for Hugesnet Mods.  

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I never asked for your assistance to begin with.  And if you research my past posts, I believe I had a very legitimate complaint that bore out after six pages of debate with community members and finally Liz.  Do you remember?   After enduring multiple people chiming in about me not cooperating, when the bandwidth charts were finally reviewed my concern was validated. That is, the beam was indeed saturated. If you also recall, this is where you posted the disclaimer I mentioned above in which you just denied. Further, you agreed with MarkJ about a sarcastic remark he made about me. All because I was being persistent and wouldn't accept the technical hyperbole being dished out. So don't act so sanctimonious about all this. I was also called a troll by corrosion, remember now? 

 

So hopefully all the folks you \"cc\" to come to your defense, I sure hope they read how you and MarkJ responded to me during my past issue solidifying why I don't want your help or opinions again. Here is a novel suggestion to avoid this crap in the future. Put another category on the home page titled:  Concerns for Hugesnet Mods.  

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