Since I got Hughesnet, my service has not been good. I was given a discount for several months. The person I spoke to online was hard to understand through the phone connection but sounded like it was a hardware issue that would be fixed in a few months. This month my bill went up so supposed to be fixed? Still less than 1Mb upload tonight. The more recent problem is last month my data got used up in a few days. I don't think I was even on the computer. We don't stream anything. My plan renewed a few days ago. I have the wireless disabled on the HN router and it feeds into my router. I reset my statistics so I see each IP and the byte count starts at zero. I just refreshed the byte count and I used 1.26 GB since the reset. HN is said I used 6.6 GB. So is HN having retransmission issues and charging me? My modem has the stats for every IP in the house, wired or wireless. I have suspected a hardware problem with the equipment I received but when someone came out to check it they thought it was fine. The installer said I had the best signal he had seen in 3 months. So why do I have so many slowness problems and this mysterious missing data?
You should open a free account with Testmy.net and run several tests at different times of the day to see what speed you actually have.
Your perception of slowness may be due to the latency that is inherent to satellite Internet. Read about it here: https://www.howtogeek.com/138771/htg-explains-how-latency-can-make-even-fast-internet-connections-fe...
You are being charged for data because data is being used by something on your network, even if you personally are not using it. Devices attached to your network and even the router itself can use data when you're not there. See this: https://community.hughesnet.com/t5/Tech-Support/HughesNet-Data-Management-Tips-n-Tricks-How-To-Elimi...
You will need to test your network to see where the data is going. See this: https://community.hughesnet.com/t5/Tech-Support/Where-s-my-bytes-Testing-for-data-leaks/td-p/77194
Please note these tests are required before anyone can look into your issues.
*I am not a Hughesnet employee or representative. This is a customer-to-customer tech support community, and I am a customer.
@drfranks wrote:I reset my statistics so I see each IP and the byte count starts at zero. I just refreshed the byte count and I used 1.26 GB since the reset.
What are you using to monitor the data count?
The only active output from the HN router is the hardwired ethernet going into a AC1750 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router. All wireless and wired pass through it. On my router statistics page, I have the MAC/IP of all 17 devices. I reset the page which zeroes statistics. I look at my hughesnet usage from hughesnet and write it down. I leave the router stats and hughesnet pages up. A day or two later, I update hughesnet and get the latest usage. I click on the refresh button to get the latest router stats. It is listed in bytes. I drop them into a spreadsheet and get a total. I am suspicious that HN said there was a hardware problem that the needed to fix on their end and it would eventually be fixed (3 or 4 months of discounts). What was fixed? I have talked to other people who get much better service than I do. I am pretty sure this is a hardware issue. Can the trasmitter/receiver on the dish have problems causing data to be lost and restransmitted?
You will need to test your network to see where the data is going. See this: https://community.hughesnet.com/t5/Tech-Support/Where-s-my-bytes-Testing-for-data-leaks/td-p/77194
Hi drfranks, welcome to the community and thanks for posting! I would follow maratsade's suggestion of performing a data depletion test from the link above. What this will tell you is if the modem is using data when no devices are connected, and if that's the case, we'll need to set you up with a new modem.
I am suspicious that HN said there was a hardware problem that the needed to fix on their end and it would eventually be fixed (3 or 4 months of discounts). What was fixed?
Your beam was being worked on by our engineers while they were working on system and hardware upgrades/updates and other adjustments to fine tune for better performance.
I am pretty sure this is a hardware issue. Can the trasmitter/receiver on the dish have problems causing data to be lost and restransmitted?
It can. If there's issues with the radio on your dish it can cause packet loss, however when I reviewed your equipment, your radio was in good shape.
To address your speed issues, I went ahead and made some adjustments to your modem. Improvements should show within a few hours, let me know if the issue still persists.
-Brooke
The download speed seems fine. The upload speed is poor. I can try the leak test but it seems like it was not created to figure out the problem I seem to be having. It sounds like it is to detect if you have wireless devices on the network using data. I disabled wireless on the HN modem. It seems like when I use data, it registers way more than I use. When I use little data, the numbers match up. It is not consistent except for both months I have used up half my bandwidth in the first couple days. To get lots of packets dropped you would need to be receiving packets. I'll give it a try.
@drfranks wrote:I can try the leak test but it seems like it was not created to figure out the problem I seem to be having. It sounds like it is to detect if you have wireless devices on the network using data.
The leak test is actually designed to show if any data is "draining", as in disappearing and being counted, but not being used by any of your devices. Unfortunately, the instructions linked to have not been updated since Gen5 was released, and it leaves out a crucial step. That step is disabling the WiFi in the HughesNet modem, as having the WiFi on while the test is being performed defeats the purpose of the test. The screenshots need to be taken with a LAN cable connected device.
The following is the up to date Modem Isolation Test instructions...
Please perform the following test outlined in the graphic below. This is known as a modem isolation test, and it will help to determine whether the issue is with Hughesnet or your local network..
1: Disabled the WiFi in the HT2000W modem.
2: Take a screen capture of the HughesNet Usage Meter, along with the clock on your computer screen.
3: Disconnect the LAN cable from the modem, noting the date and time of disconnect.
4: Leave the LAN cable disconnected from the modem for several hours, HughesNet recommends doing this overnight, or during the day while at work. DO NOT unplug the modem from the power. The modem must remain powered.
5: Reconnect the LAN cable to the modem, noting the date and time of reconnect.
6: Take a screen capture of the HughesNet Usage Meter, along with the clock displayed on your computer.
7: Post your screens hots to the community.
Please DO NOT unplug the modem power after running the test. The reps need to be able to reconcile the test results with the modem logs, and disconnecting the power from the modem erases those logs.
Please be aware, if you downloaded any large files just prior to this test, or if the disconnect was for an extensive time period, some usage may appear to have occurred, but it should be rather negligible.
If you don't know how to disable the WiFi in the HT2000W, please see "How do I manage my built-in WiFi modem?" in this PDF. Please be sure to click "Save Settings" after unchaining "SSID Enable" for each of the four tabs individually (2.4Ghz, then 2.4Ghz Guest, then 5Ghz, then 5Ghz Guest).
There was a 42 MB loss which seems neglible. I believe the big loss occured was when my PC was possibly doing an update. I had wireless disabled and ran everything through my modem which gave me a byte count for every attached device.
How are your upload speeds? I just ran a speed test on our end and your upload speeds are within normal ranges for me, but I wanted to check back with you and see what yours are at.
Also, I've applied some free data tokens to your account to provide you with more wiggle room this cycle as a courtesy for running speed tests for me.
-Brooke
This was my last test which was after you tweaked things. What does HN consider normal range?
This log will show you what others are experiencing at different times of the day: https://testmy.net/host-history/hughes_network_syste
Of course it only shows those who are actually running the test. Also doing it using the recommended file size are the only ones HughesNet recognizes as valid.
On the evening of the fourth, I reset my tplink router statistics and took a snapshot of my HN usage. I did a little browsing on the internet, pretty light stuff. No videos, etc. I left everything on until the next evening. I then took a snapshot of the HN and tplink usage/stats. As I have said, the HN modem has it's wifi disabled and only a single 1ft ethernet cable coming out of it going to the tplink into the port labled internet and I think a lot of routers label it WAN but it is the appropriate port. All wired and wireless traffic goes through the tplink.
The HN usage was 1454 MB. The tplink usage was 319 MB. What HN says I am using was 4 times what my router saw.
I see there are a lot of control packets. Is that number normal?
Not sure from your explanation but you should have a dedicated port on the router that says WAN or Internet that plugs into the modem. Not a generic Ethernet port. Something like this:
That's where it is plugged in.
Whoops. I meant to say it was labeled internet. It is down in the basement and I was upstairs.
Something else you can try for keeping track of the data usage is Glasswire. This can help determine what is using the most data, but bear in mind that GlassWire only keeps track of data for the device it's installed on and not the total amount of data used overall. For example, if you have a phone connected to your wi-fi, that data would not be counted towards it unless you have the app installed on there as well.
-Brooke
Why would I need an application? There is no leak on my end. It is a HN problem. My router tracks every bite that leaves the HN router and is used by my home. I show the totals above. It seems obvious that HN is charging me for data that was not delivered to my router. What can HN correct this? I have had problems since my service started.
Because something is leaking at your end even though you don't think it is, and before anyone can help you, you need to do what you're being politely asked to do and run some tests using an application that is accepted by the ISP.
@drfranks wrote:Why would I need an application? There is no leak on my end. It is a HN problem. My router tracks every bite that leaves the HN router and is used by my home. I show the totals above. It seems obvious that HN is charging me for data that was not delivered to my router. What can HN correct this? I have had problems since my service started.
On the GlassWire page is says "Please keep in mind that GlassWire only keeps track of bandwidth for the computer and server it's installed on and not total bandwidth usage on your network". My router tracked the bytes leaving the HN modem. Tracing leaks on a single computer is not adequate. Maybe you didn't read all the numbers and details earlier in the posts. If my router did not receive the packets, tracking a computer downstream from it won't do much good. The issue is, the HN modem says it received so many packets and my router says that much less was received from the HN router over the hardwired connection. They can't both be right. It doesn't matter what is downstream. That is just a distraction from the actual problem.
The screenshots you posted when performing our data depletion test show there are no leaks from the HughesNet modem. If there was any significant usage while the modem was disconnected from your home network, we can certainly escalate the issue to our corporate engineers.
However, being that we've ruled out the HughesNet modem already, the next step is to examine your home network. It helps to add a device to the HughesNet modem one at a time to observe how much data it uses before adding more, makes your investigation a bit easier.
-Brooke
You should edit the SAN (DSS......) out of your picture. This is your HughesNet account number, which you should never post in public. You can use Paint in Windows to do this.
It would also be a good idea to edit the SSID's out of the Status picture, like so (using my pic)....
You can edit a post by clicking on the three dots to the upper right of the post and clicking on Edit Reply.
Edit: Also, a high number of control packets is normal.