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[Laura Allard]

I live in Hayden, Idaho. The rest of the world doesn't understand what "rural" means like we do.

[CharlesMcCool]

some gateways are so overloaded that they have stopped offering the Ultra Plan, it was offered here in NE Oklahoma but as far as Ive been able to find its not anymore

[donagibbons]

Charles McCool,  

Interesting,  Are you saying based on your description of the gateways overloading is implying that the HughesNet Network was design with a single point of failure?

This appears to be contrary to the Internet-wide Multipath Routing Concept.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multipath_routing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1aq

[donagibbons]

Charles McCool,  

Interesting,  Are you saying based on your description of the gateways overloading is implying that the HughesNet Network was design with a single point of failure?

This appears to be contrary to the Internet-wide Multipath Routing Concept.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multipath_routing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1aq

[Gwalk900]

What is saying is that what you linked to does not apply because of the "closed loop" that part the Hughes system comprised of the uplink/down link Gateway to satellite to user terminal system.
Once again you can not compare a sat connection to ground based infrastructure.

[donagibbons]

Gwalk900,

Are you saying "Closed Loop" or "Keep Alive" are causing these customers DDDD issues?
Are you saying "Closed Loop" used unnecessary bandwidth causing these customers slow traffic issues?

I read the "Closed Loop" in the HughesNet documentations, it basically a Keep Alive function.   I remember AOL frowned on users using Keep Alive or Closed Loop software to keep their session from timing out.

[C0RR0SIVE]

Interesting,  Are you saying based on your description of the gateways overloading is implying that the HughesNet Network was design with a single point of failure?
This appears to be contrary to the Internet-wide Multipath Routing Concept.

Yes, it has a single point of failure, the satellite in space, not much what so ever can be done about that.  That aside, the "Multipath" concept is nothing but a failure from region to region because of ISP peering being a total pain.

Want to know another single point of failure?  Your own home router, oh and even that modem ! -.-

[Gwalk900]

Are you saying "Closed Loop" or "Keep Alive" are causing these customers DDDD issues?
Are you saying "Closed Loop" used unnecessary bandwidth causing these customers slow traffic issues?

Nope, I'm not saying that at all.

What I am saying is that you don't seem to grasp the fact that a satellite Internet connection has more "moving parts" than a user that has a terrestrial Internet connection.

You trying to link the terminal>satellite>gateway concept to AOL is an indicator of how little information you have been able to retain.

In an effort to help you understand those "additional moving parts" I suggest you read my beams and gateways topic posted here:

https://community.myhughesnet.com/hughesnet/topics/beams-gateways-and-loading-overloading

As to your reference to "DDDD", which can be more accurately described as "usage by an unidentified source", there are procedures that can be utilized to identify that "unidentified source".

donagibbons, tell us, are you really a Hughesnet user or just trolling ?

[lindabarbano]

But I still don"t understand; if I run out of allowance, I can still get more, I just have to pay for it. So doesnt that make it all about the money, and less about how many people are using it?

[donagibbons]

Charles R. Scott,

You are talking about physical hardware single point of failure, I am wanting to know the Logical component and if the satellite has any redundancy systems and system recovery onboard the satellite.  Based on your lecture, it does not have any self recovery system, I find that hard to believe.  Also, in case you are wondering I do have alternate access to the internet if I want to use it.

If HughesNet does not do peering, an exchange of routing information through the Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) routing protocol, then why is their HN9600 include the RIPV2 and BGP routing protocols.  Even the receive information rate runs up to 121 Mbps. (While ours is set to 15Mbps).

Gwalk900,

The link you provides is not a technical White Paper.   What I am referring to comes from HughesNet White Paper.   I believe the Official White Paper from HughesNet trumps your link to sales literature.  Please provide the official White Paper that support your view point.

I am a World Wide Web User.   Remember many web pages begins with www.