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The Brilliance of Windows 10 Automatic Updates...(sarcasm)

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Distinguished Professor IV

The Brilliance of Windows 10 Automatic Updates...(sarcasm)

As we all know, Windows 10 has changed the Windows OS landscape by using us as guinea pigs to test their updates.  After the Anniversary Update, I noticed that my system would simply freeze up every now and again.  As it turns out, I'm not the only one.  In addition to that, the IE11 that I primarily use freezes up three or four times a day now, as well.  Pages also seem to randomly refresh for no particular reason, and some get stuck during that refresh, too.  They've actually admitted to the problem with the OS freezes, but only partially, saying only particular systems are affected, which turns out to NOT be true.     

One solution they put forth is to roll back to a previous build.  Well, that's great, until Windows 10 automatically updates to the Anniversary Edition again, which shouldn't be too long after you restart, and which we can't stop from happening. 

Thanks, Microsoft.  We really appreciate the privilege of testing your products for you.  I suppose those who upgraded to Windows 10 for free don't really have much of a leg to stand on, but what about those who paid for Windows 10, including those that purchased a computer with Windows 10 already installed?   

Again, thank you so much, Microsoft.  You really know how to endear your customers.

No, this has absolutely zero to do with Hughesnet, but I'm just wondering how many of you are experiencing the same type of thing.   


AMD Ryzen 5 3400G | XPG SX8200 Pro 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD | Western Digital Blue 500GB HDD | 16GB Corsair DDR4-3000 | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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Moderator

Re: The Brilliance of Windows 10 Automatic Updates...(sarcasm)

Hi Gabe

I had to rollback to the previous build after going to 1607. I've chosen to defer updates, however I recently learned this only defers them for about two months until MS forces you to do it for "security" reasons. Even after choosing to defer updates, like you mentioned, when I wanted to shut down it wanted to update!!! I went ahead and spent my whole last Saturday re-installing my video card drivers, chipset drivers, cleaning up registry, etc.. Also, found out some people were having terrible boot times and freezes had something to do with Intel Rapid Storage technology drivers.. Mine needed updating too as per my HP Assistant program. My video games were giving me tons of problems after 1607 update, now after re-installing drivers and making sure mostly everything is updated the games are working okay again. Still get some frame rate issues but its bearable. 

You can disable IE11 through the Control Panel, but dont think it will help much. Mine already is. I found that Google Chrome runs at startup (meaning connects to the internet too!!) if you have some plug-ins installed.. I'd recommend looking at your start up in Task Manager to see if that's the case for some of you too.. You can also see your network connections too. Task manager has turned into a really useful tool for me now as far as monitoring connections to my system and such.

Amanda
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Distinguished Professor IV

Re: The Brilliance of Windows 10 Automatic Updates...(sarcasm)

If it continues I'm definitely going to be looking at using Chrome on a more permanent basis.  Right now I only use it for a few things, but if this keeps up, and I think it will, IE11 is going to have to go by the wayside.  I don't care for Edge, so Chrome it will be. 

Microsoft is trying to say it's only affecting a computer with this, or only affecting a computer with that, but it's nonsense.  There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.  I knew this forced update thing would eventually cause a problem with them using us as guinea pigs.  

The entire computer freezing up doesn't happen nearly as often, but it still happens. 

I could try the rollback and defer the updates, and maybe in the two months or so it waits to force them they will have released a fix or an updated Anniversary update.  My notebook doesn't have Pro, so no deferral, but I only use it as a testing computer for programs I want to use on this and my main laptop, and with not using it much I haven't seen it happen on that, as of yet.    

Oh well.  Life could be worse.  My Keurig could stop working and I'd have no coffee...knock on wood.  LOL. 


AMD Ryzen 5 3400G | XPG SX8200 Pro 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD | Western Digital Blue 500GB HDD | 16GB Corsair DDR4-3000 | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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Assistant Professor

Re: The Brilliance of Windows 10 Automatic Updates...(sarcasm)

Not to rub it in anyone's nose but I knew this would be a problem way back in the beginning when they said consumer versions would be used to test updates before rolling them out to Enterprise customers. One of a handful of reasons I'm not going to 10 unless they makes drastic policy and feature changes.
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Distinguished Professor IV

Re: The Brilliance of Windows 10 Automatic Updates...(sarcasm)

I'm lucky enough that I still have my Windows 8 disk that came with my Dell laptop, which will also work with my notebook, due to them both having the embedded product keys (I've used it on both before).  I'm thinking about at least reinstalling Windows 8 on the laptop, then upgrading to 8.1, of course.  I'm stuck with W10 on this (desktop), though, due to using my purchased OEM upgrade copy of Windows 8.1 being installed on my folks' laptop.

I saw it coming, as well, but took the dive anyway.  With the exception of the very recent problems, I actually like Windows 10.  Sure, us being update guinea pigs caused this, and may cause other problems in the future, but hopefully they will iron things out.  I know...that's a lot of hoping.  LOL. 


AMD Ryzen 5 3400G | XPG SX8200 Pro 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD | Western Digital Blue 500GB HDD | 16GB Corsair DDR4-3000 | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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Assistant Professor

Re: The Brilliance of Windows 10 Automatic Updates...(sarcasm)

but hopefully they will iron things out
Lol, I got some ocean front property in Arkansas I'll sell you.
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Distinguished Professor IV

Re: The Brilliance of Windows 10 Automatic Updates...(sarcasm)

That's awesome!  I've been looking for some.  How much? 

Got a bridge, too? 


AMD Ryzen 5 3400G | XPG SX8200 Pro 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD | Western Digital Blue 500GB HDD | 16GB Corsair DDR4-3000 | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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Assistant Professor

Re: The Brilliance of Windows 10 Automatic Updates...(sarcasm)

I like my 8.1 Pro just fine. It is pretty much 10 without all the invasive junk and inability to control updates in any real fashion. Not to mention the guinea pig part.
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Honorary Alumnus

Re: The Brilliance of Windows 10 Automatic Updates...(sarcasm)

Changes coming for the format of updates in 7/8/8.1


Further simplifying servicing models for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1Further simplifying servicing models for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1
In our announcement earlier in May, we introduced a Convenience Rollup update for Windows 7 SP1 and a shift to monthly rollups of non-security updates for Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1. Based on your feedback, today we’re announcing some new changes for servicing Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1. These changes also apply to Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Server 2012, and Windows Server 2012 R2. (Note: A rollup is multiple patches rolled together into a single update.)

Why we’re introducing Windows servicing changes
Historically, we have released individual patches for these platforms, which allowed you to be selective with the updates you deployed. This resulted in fragmentation where different PCs could have a different set of updates installed leading to multiple potential problems:

Various combinations caused sync and dependency errors and lower update quality
Testing complexity increased for enterprises
Scan times increased
Finding and applying the right patches became challenging
Customers encountered issues where a patch was already released, but because it was in limited distribution it was hard to find and apply proactively

for further information
»blogs.technet.microsoft. ··· ows-8-1/


From a dlsr thread:

https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r30926904-Further-simplifying-servicing-models-for-Windows-7-and-Wi...


Personally I am down to only two remaining Windows based machines and while not recommended they both have had updates disabled and those are seldom used.

I just don't think much of the direction that Microsoft is heading.




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Re: The Brilliance of Windows 10 Automatic Updates...(sarcasm)

Hey Gabe

Chrome is a favorite of mine as I use it on my work pc, cellphone (android) and home pc. I sync all of them to share bookmarks and use all the google products (drive, calendar, youtube red). Of course I only sync my phone when I am on my work Wi-Fi as my 500MB cell plan only covers basic on-the-go email checking and my texting apps for the month. No youtube videos or cute cat pictures while I'm waiting in line at the DMV.

I also like that Chrome has a built-in task manager! 

I have not experienced the full on freezing you mentioned, but until I re-installed my video card drivers after the update, when I would log in, my desktop wallpaper would disappear and freeze, then unfreeze and re-appear. I think it also has something to do with the fact that I am/have to use the beta drivers for my NVIDIA to be compatible with virtual reality so they are somewhat unstable. Once they release the linux version for my favorite game, I may just make the switch.