The Windows 10 data hog begs to be fed

[GW]

I did the windoze updates on two W10 computers this morning, The two pigs sucked down over 450 MB of bonus bytes data. After all this was installed and rebooted, I ran the check again on both compiuters. Now, the windows pig says it wants more updates of 2.07 GB and 2.09 GB.

Good thing I get up at 4 AM.

[maratsade]

Yep, I have the same experience with Windows updates.  My Apple laptop, OTOH, updates beautifully, without any of the Windows data-eating nonsense. 

@GW wrote:

I did the windoze updates on two W10 computers this morning, The two pigs sucked down over 450 MB of bonus bytes data. After all this was installed and rebooted, I ran the check again on both compiuters. Now, the windows pig says it wants more updates of 2.07 GB and 2.09 GB.

Good thing I get up at 4 AM.

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[BirdDog]

Yea, my wife got on her 10 computer yesterday, which she doesn't use that much, and it ate over a gigabyte. I had forgotten to put it make in metered data mode after I updated last. Grrrrrr!

[maratsade]

Jeez. Was that from updates?

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@BirdDog wrote:

Yea, my wife got on her 10 computer yesterday, which she doesn't use that much, and it ate over a gigabyte. I had forgotten to put it make in metered data mode after I updated last. Grrrrrr!

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[BirdDog]

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@maratsade wrote:

Jeez. Was that from updates?

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@BirdDog wrote:

Yea, my wife got on her 10 computer yesterday, which she doesn't use that much, and it ate over a gigabyte. I had forgotten to put it make in metered data mode after I updated last. Grrrrrr!

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Yes, it downloaded them in the background while she was just browsing. I try to update it every so often during Bonus time or when I have data left just before reset but I forgot to set it back to metered the last time. Sure miss the old days when could simply set it not to download any update automatcally regardless any other settings one might forget.

[maratsade]

Those background updates are killer. I miss the days when we had more control over our devices.

@BirdDog wrote:

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Yes, it downloaded them in the background while she was just browsing. I try to update it every so often during Bonus time or when I have data left just before reset but I forgot to set it back to metered the last time. Sure miss the old days when could simply set it not to download any update automatcally regardless any other settings one might forget.

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[GW]

I learned to leave these W10 computers in metered mode all the time so I can't forget to switch it back after doing the updates. Then the miserable windoze update section gives me a download button to click on and make it go.

[GW]

Oh yeah, the 2 GB updates that windoze want to do now are to go from 1803 to 1809. Why do they have to do a major version revamp every 6 months?

[GabeU]

@GW

Just out of curiosity, where are you seeing the data amounts for the updates that are showing as needed, but have not yet been performed?  Is there a data amount showing on your computer, or are you looking up what each update allegedly requires?

I only ask as this would be great info to see, as it can help me determine whether I want to do the updates "now" or wait until the Bonus Bytes period.  

Edit:  I should ask, is this something that's shown only when you have the computer set to metered?  

[GW]

I reckon it has to be set to metered or the dirty deed would have already been done.

Here's pictures of the two pigs still waiting for their feeding. i think I'll let them suffer for a while

[MarkJFine]

Yeah, apparently they fixed the 1809 update for general downloading this week (for those that didn't get it before the bad one was released).

When they're not doing GB-level updates semi-annually, they're doing GB-level cumulative updates practically weekly. And that doesn't include the multitude of app updates, which also seemingly update weekly.

Defender updates fairly regularly with generally small 2-10MB files. Adobe Flash updates are also usually small, generally 22MB each.

The big mistake was thinking I should keep a version of Windows' Office in my VM'd copy of Win10. That seems to also require a 1.5GB update weekly, and it won't do anything at all if you have metered switched on.

[GW]

I check these stinkers once or sometimes twice a month for updates. They usually want a few hundred MB each.

[MarkJFine]

I have this process I go through before 8am to use the Bonus bytes:
1. Phone app updates + podcast downloads

2. Apple system updates (if available)
3. Apple store updates

4. nonApple Mac updates (using Macupdate).
5. Mac Office updates (if available - usally second week of month ~10th-15th).
6. Homebrew/Howebrew cask updates.

7. Anything useful in Usenet

8. Parallels VM updates
8a. Fedora updates (dnf)
8b. Windows 10 updates (includes checking Microsoft store)

[GabeU]

@GW

Very interesting.  I have never had mine set to metered, but instead had them set to notify me of pending downloads by changing the option in the Group Policy Editor.  That would stop them until I initiated the download.  And, though it would tell me what updates were needed, it wouldn't tell me how much data they would, or could, use for the download.

I'll have to try the "metered" way and see how it goes.  Thanks for the info, and the pics.  🙂 

[gaines_wright]

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@GW wrote:

I did the windoze updates on two W10 computers this morning, The two pigs sucked down over 450 MB of bonus bytes data. After all this was installed and rebooted, I ran the check again on both compiuters. Now, the windows pig says it wants more updates of 2.07 GB and 2.09 GB.

  I've been following this discussion with interest, since I  got rid of MS Windoze in 2014.  I've been running the latest version of Linux Mint since then.

  I have complete control of updates, no anti-virus, defragger, or optimizer programs needed. It comes with a ton of programs, including a full office suite, and the GIMP image editor.   Anything else you want can be downloaded for free.

  The original ISO is about 1.9 gig, but updates don't seem to use much data.

  It's not as user friendly as Windoze, but there's a huge Linux user community online that can help you over any rough spots.

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[BirdDog]

@gaines_wright, many of us here have tried Linux on other hard drives and virtual machines in the past and play with it off and on.

I really like it but simply haven't been ready to take the final leap to it full time. For me, I have a lot of old Windows based software like games that I still dig out and play at times. Not ready to spend the time figuring out all the compatibilty work arounds right now with Linux. Also not sure if the Linux DosBox posted on their site works with Mint as that's something I haven't tried yet.

Again, just not ready to switch to a totally different OS. Maybe when my Win 8.1 Pro is no longer supported.

[gaines_wright]

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@BirdDog wrote:

I really like it but simply haven't been ready to take the final leap to it full time. For me, I have a lot of old Windows based software like games that I still dig out and play at times.......

  You can run Linux as a dual boot. IOW you decide which OS to run at boot up.  Otherwise the learning curve to run windows programs under Linux WINE, looks pretty steep to me.   

Again, just not ready to switch to a totally different OS. Maybe when my Win 8.1 Pro is no longer supported.

  To tell you the truth, I didn't switch until MS pulled the plug on XP.  Of course, it helped that XP suddenly started crashing all of the time, after running for years with minimal problems.  What a coincidence!

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[GW]

I have the iso files for cinnamon and mate stored on a drive but never use them. I depend on too many things that require windoze. I suppose it wouldn't hurt me to use Linux Mint on at least one of the W10 laptops but I can't do it on my main W7 computer. Maybe I'll have to change over later when W7 is killed off. No way will I ever use W10 on an important computer.

Dual boot never worked out well for me. Maybe it's because I refuse to put the two different OS on the same hard drive. The end game is I always finish off with a 24 hour stint trying to rescue my computer

[GabeU]

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@BirdDog wrote:

@gaines_wright, many of us here have tried Linux on other hard drives and virtual machines in the past and play with it off and on.

I really like it but simply haven't been ready to take the final leap to it full time.

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That's me.  I like Linux Mint, but just haven't taken the full dive.  I have 18.3 Cinnamon on a separate HDD in this desktop that I occasionally play around with, and I dabble in Linux somewhat when I'm fooling around with Raspbian on my Raspberry Pi.  

I do like it, and if there was ever a reason that I had to change to it exclusively I could do so without much of a problem, but I'm too used to Windows and the things I can do with it, including playing the few PC games that I own once in a blue moon.  

[maratsade]

I love Linux Mint myself and have it installed on an old laptop, but I am required to use Windows 10 for work, so can't use Linux as much as I would like. 

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@GabeU wrote:

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That's me.  I like Linux Mint, but just haven't taken the full dive.  I have 18.3 Cinnamon on a separate HDD in this desktop that I occasionally play around with, and I dabble in Linux somewhat when I'm fooling around with Raspbian on my Raspberry Pi.  

I do like it, and if there was ever a reason that I had to change to it exclusively I could do so without much of a problem, but I'm too used to Windows and the things I can do with it, including playing the few PC games that I own once in a blue moon.  

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[GW]

Mighty funny looking 2.07 GB version 1809 update on data hog #1. I woke up and started it at 1:59 AM.