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Ultimate Leak Test

Freshman

Ultimate Leak Test

I just performed the ultimate leak test, by accident. I had the dish installed shortly after leaving the country, so the first 1 3/4 months the modem had nothing connected to it.

 

I returned to the US on the 20th with 8 days left in the billing cycle. When I connected the computer for the first time I brought up the System Control Center and 10% of the monthly data had been used during those 3 weeks. So over a full month 2.5 GB's sucked out doing nothing. Just to be clear, during this time no devices connected to the modem.

 

Reading the recent data loss post, the person mentions that modem 'overhead' is not deducted but it appears that it is.

 

How can this get fixed so I am not losing 13% of the monthly allowance for nothing?

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Distinguished Professor III

Re: Ultimate Leak Test

@wyomingfly 

 

Though your inadvertent experiment would seem to point to an issue, it doesn't really help to point to the cause.  To determine where the data "leak" issue may lie, please perform the modem isolation test as outlined below.  Regarding overhead data, the amount used is normally tiny.  Though very unlikely, if there is a problem with overhead data, such as an excessive amount being used and/or it being deducted from your own data, this test will help to establish such.  

 

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Please perform the following test outlined in the graphic below. This is known as a modem isolation test, and it will help to determine whether the issue is with HughesNet or your local network..

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1: Disabled the WiFi in the HT2000W modem.
2: Take a screen capture of the HughesNet Usage Meter, along with the clock on your computer screen.
3: Disconnect the LAN cable from the modem, noting the date and time of disconnect.
4: Leave the LAN cable disconnected from the modem for several hours. HughesNet recommends doing this overnight, or during the day while at work. DO NOT unplug the modem from the power. The modem must remain powered.
5: Reconnect the LAN cable to the modem, noting the date and time of reconnect.
6: Take a screen capture of the HughesNet Usage Meter, along with the clock displayed on your computer.
7: Post your screens hots to the community.

Please DO NOT unplug the modem power after running the test. The reps need to be able to reconcile the test results with the modem logs, and disconnecting the power from the modem erases those logs.

Please be aware that, if you downloaded any large files just prior to this test, or if the disconnect was for an extensive time period, some usage may appear to have occurred, but it should be rather negligible.

If you don't know how to disable the WiFi in the HT2000W, please see "How do I manage my built-in WiFi modem?" in this PDF. Please be sure to click "Save Settings" after unchaining "SSID Enable" for each of the four tabs individually (2.4Ghz, then 2.4Ghz Guest, then 5Ghz, then 5Ghz Guest).


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Freshman

Re: Ultimate Leak Test

That is exactly what was done. There were no connections of any sort for 3 weeks of that month. The 2 GB used up during that 3 weeks (~2.5 over a full month) is purely modem overhead or inaccurate metering.

 

Only thing is missing is #2 and 6 but that can be verified by a look at Hughes account records from the beginning of that use period up through the 20th of February

Distinguished Professor III

Re: Ultimate Leak Test

@wyomingfly 

 

The tests need to be run as laid out.  Though it may seem that this is, more or less, what occured, the reps/engineers need the test to be performed as instructed and the information given that is requested in those instructions in order to be able to help you.  


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Freshman

Re: Ultimate Leak Test

So then 12% data mismetering is just dismissed even though its quite easy for Hughes to see that there were no connections during that 3 week period.

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Distinguished Professor III

Re: Ultimate Leak Test


@wyomingfly wrote:

So then 12% data mismetering is just dismissed even though its quite easy for Hughes to see that there were no connections during that 3 week period.


No, it is not dismissed.  If it were, no one would bother taking the time to help you.  As I said, the test will determine whether the issue is on your end or HughesNet's end.  The test is the troubleshooting step that is necessary to move on to solving the issue.  

 

No one is going to twist your arm to do the necessary troubleshooting, which is the modem isolation test.  Either you will or you won't.  However, if you'd like to get the issue resolved I suggest you do.  


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Moderator

Re: Ultimate Leak Test

Hello Jonathan,

 

Thank you for posting. After reviewing your account,  we found there was usage earlier this month from a device with a MAC address ending in ef:0a:c6. Also, your wifi networks are unsecured, leaving them open to any wifi device that may come within range. I highly suggest password protecting your wifi networks to avoid any other unwanted wireless devices from connecting to your network and using your data allowance.

 

I prematurely sent a replacement modem before digging deeper and learning how your data was used. You'll receive a new modem in a few days, so feel free to return it using the return label in the outer pouch. I'm sorry for any inconvenience that may cause.

 

Our community has recommended GlassWire, which is a 3rd party program that tracks what connects to your network and shows exactly how much data is used. it would be a good idea to check it out so you have another way to track and manage your data. 

 

I hope this clears things up.

 

-Damian

Distinguished Professor III

Re: Ultimate Leak Test

@wyomingfly 

 

My apologies.  I had mistakenly assumed by your reply to me that your WiFi had been disabled, which is why I was insistent that the test be performed.  Damian has the ability to see that it wasn't.  I defer to him, of course.  

 

Good luck.  


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Assistant Professor

Re: Ultimate Leak Test

Open WiFi is never a good idea, no matter how remote the location might be.

Freshman

Re: Ultimate Leak Test

Wifi was unsecured only from the 20th on. Prior to that it was secured. I live in an extremely remote location. Its a 10 mile snowmachine ride in in the winter.

 

The record in question is from the beginning of the use period through the 19th. I set up the modem/wifi afternoon on the 20th