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Liz
Moderator
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Big Windows 10 Update August 2

Hello!

For the Windows 10 users out there, be aware of this significant update to come August 2. 

Please remember that Windows 10 updates are automatically downloaded and installed to your computer, and you may only schedule when your PC reboots to complete the installation.

So if you notice your data allowance depleting faster than usual on/after August 2, it's due to the Windows 10 update.

Here's how to schedule the post-update reboot so that it does not interrupt you during an inopportune moment:
http://www.howtogeek.com/221903/how-to-schedule-restarts-for-updates-in-windows-10/

For details on what's included in this update, please check this out: http://www.computerworld.com/article/3089869/microsoft-windows/microsofts-big-windows-10-update-laun...

If you have a tech or billing question and need help, please start a new thread in the appropriate board. Unsolicited Private Messages may not get replies.

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BirdDog
Assistant Professor

It is like a giant spider web of cables and and server locations throughout the US. Even the majority of communications going overseas uses cables under the oceans.
GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

The internet provided by cable does NOT come from satellites.  The very low latency alone proves this.  Cable internet is ground based, throughout the entire network.  Cable internet originates the same place all other internet originates: computers, servers and ultimately, networks.    

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BirdDog
Assistant Professor

A very small percentage of everyday communication uses two-way satellite. TV news programs, large international corporations, the military, and companies like HughesNet are what use the bulk of satellite two-way communications.

Here is link to underseas (submarine) cable map: http://www.submarinecablemap.com/
Gwalk900
Honorary Alumnus

When you say "cable companies" you have to define the "product"....
That being ... television OR Internet services.

Its ALL data but television is "one-way" communication whereas Internet is "two-way".

Here is a map of the terrestrial Internet:


It consists of a hodge podge of coper wire and fiber-optic using a number of routers and switches.

In some cases a company may use a satellite to uplink TV data streams to companies such as Directv or Dish. Again these are one-way blanket transmissions but most traffic is carried over fiber.

Two-way satellite communication is radically different.
Hughes owns outright (at this point) two satellites ... Echostar17 that handles Gen4 HT1000/1100 system traffic and Spaceway3 that handles the HN9000 systems. There also are a few remaining "legacy" systems that connect to satellites that Hughes leases transponder space on. This would be the HN7000 platform but these are being phased out as they are ultra low capacity systems.

Hughes maintains ground stations called Gateways .... and those Gateways connect to the "real Internet" at "head ends" where Hughes purchases ISP bandwidth ... I think Hughes uses Level 3.

Directv can blanket TV service to the entire continental US .. one "channel" per frequency.

Hughes however has to provide two-way service both up and down directly to/from  YOUR dish.

Your request for a webpage travels from your computer>Modem>roof mounted transmitter> to the satellite and down to your assigned Gateway .. where it joins the "real Internet.  The request then follow the normal terrestrial paths to the server containing your information. That info is then sent to your Gateways "head End" and then transmitted back up to the satellite, then down to your dish mounted reciever then demodulated by your modem and then finally displayed displayed on your computer or networked device.




 
BirdDog
Assistant Professor

That was the "spider web" map I was looking for.  🙂
GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

I think one of those blue lines is going right to my house. 

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Gwalk900
Honorary Alumnus

That was the "spider web" map I was looking for.  🙂

Thats great ! I got it frm one of your old posts.  🙂
Don't lose it this time 🙂
BirdDog
Assistant Professor

Oh smack!
HerEntrprs
New Member

Thank you gentlemen for the education. I was wrong. It's always nice to learn something new. I appreciate you taking the time to give me a lengthy explanation. Have a good day and take care.
sharon_johnston
New Member

I would hope to show "good" customer service that the update would be done during the "free data cycle" at night. Surely they could pick an hour that would cover us all.
HerEntrprs
New Member

This is an excellent idea!
GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

Sharon,

Great idea, but good luck convincing Microsoft of that.  If they don't care about people with data caps (us and others), they aren't going to care about when it's most amenable for the same people to download large updates.   

The only other options are saving data, or updating the morning of the release, or the next morning, depending on the actual time of the release.


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Donna Schoenhal
New Member

Another reason why I decided to not upgrade my two computers to Windows 10. Dual booting Kubuntu 16.02 LTS  (Linux) along side my Windows 7 and Windows 8..1 systems. Not happy with Windows forcing us to "rent" their software. 
Linda Ferrell
New Member

I agree!
larrykelly
Junior

Thanks, Liz.
GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

Get ready. 

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sallynug
New Member

A technician told me that Windows updates were not counted towards our data limit! Somebody is lying and I am getting mad!
Gwalk900
Honorary Alumnus

The "technician" knows not of which he speaks.

Taken from the Hughes Fair Access Policy:


How is my usage calculated?

HughesNet counts each byte of data sent from, or to, your terminal. This includes packet headers, re-transmissions, and other standard overhead which is part of any IP communications. However, when HughesNet is able to apply compression and reduce the size of the data you send or receive, only the compressed (smaller) data is counted against your usage


That can be read in full here:

http://legal.hughesnet.com/FairAccessPolicyGen4.cfm




sallynug
New Member

Well someone needs to train your so called "support" (I can use quotes too. -.-) because I am tired of getting different answers from everyone I talk to! 
GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

I'm sure a rep will see this and address it.  Bottom line is anything that your devices download or upload is counted. 


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sallynug
New Member

This is what I was told by support