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Liz
Moderator
Moderator

Big Windows 10 Update August 2

Hello!

For the Windows 10 users out there, be aware of this significant update to come August 2. 

Please remember that Windows 10 updates are automatically downloaded and installed to your computer, and you may only schedule when your PC reboots to complete the installation.

So if you notice your data allowance depleting faster than usual on/after August 2, it's due to the Windows 10 update.

Here's how to schedule the post-update reboot so that it does not interrupt you during an inopportune moment:
http://www.howtogeek.com/221903/how-to-schedule-restarts-for-updates-in-windows-10/

For details on what's included in this update, please check this out: http://www.computerworld.com/article/3089869/microsoft-windows/microsofts-big-windows-10-update-laun...

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Bob5
Sophomore

I don't think it would hurt Hughes one bit to uncap data for these kind of updates, especially when they know its coming.
GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

A nice idea, but a logistical nightmare, to be sure.  First, you'd have to figure out who's got W10.  Then, of course, you'd have to implement a way for them to have the extra data needed for the update, which will vary from computer to computer, and when it's updated.  Then, of course, you'd have people that would consider it completely unfair that one person gets more data just because they have Windows 10.  "What about the updates for my Windows 8.1?"  Then there's the people that buy a new computer two or three months after the update was released, but one which was manufactured before the update was released and didn't sign up for Hughesnet until three months later.  What do you do for them? 

Then, how do you even give that extra data?  Give everyone tokens? There will be those that never use all of their data so the tokens never kick in, so they would feel cheated. 

Again, it's a nice idea, but a logistical nightmare that makes it practically impossible.  Plus, who is it that reimburses Hughesnet for millions of dollars in extra given data?  Certainly not Microsoft.

I'm not actually asking YOU all of these questions, Bob, nor trying in any way to put you on the spot.  Nobody could really answer all of this.  I'm just trying to demonstrate how, although a lot of people would like it, giving extra data for things like this is a practical impossibility.  Way too many variables, exceptions, lost potential future revenue for Hughesnet, timing, implementation, future customers, etc.

I think perhaps the best thing Hughesnet could do is send a mass email to their customers to warn of the upcoming update so that they can save the possible data needed for such an update.          


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GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

Liz,

Is there any way the company could do a mass mailing and send out an email to all of their customers warning them of the upcoming update so they could be ready for it and save the data that might be appropriate for it?  You can't make people read an email, of course, but at least it would help get the notice out for those that will.  Just an idea.   


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C0RR0SIVE
Associate Professor

It's actually really simple to do and implement an ignored amount of data...  The issue is, identifying the exact URL that M$ will use for the update...

But, I rather not see Hughes give users free data for this update, if this became a trend (they gave 4GB or so to all subscribers when Win10 started to launch, during the first month only), they would be screwed and required to give free bandwidth all the time.


If I am not mistaken, this was the Threshold 2 update that was supposed to hit late last year but got delayed, and was estimated to be about 3GB.
GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

I didn't know they could do it that way.  Still, I agree with not wanting to see them give free data.  It would start a precedent that would have no end.  

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Liz
Moderator
Moderator

Thanks Gabe, I'll make the suggestion to management!

-Liz
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coffman407
New Member

customer;s give up data all the time, when they don't use all there data that they pay for each month Hughes net should roll over all UN used data to their customers that has been paid for by the customer. for reason like windows updates. instead of take away data. the cost of date is over priced as it is. lowering  the cost of a product will make more customers then will generate my profit for the company simply by have more customers to sell a product to. in stead limiting their customer base. to only a few make price stay high.theirs  big  customer base that not been tap into because of the price of data plans
Gwalk900
Honorary Alumnus

Then how do you expect them to be able to pay for the next satellite (500 million $$$) plus launch and insurance costs for a bird with a 12 to 15 year life span ... then add in the cost of ground facilities.

As to data roll over, the satellite is a machine with a certain work capacity.
Overload it and we all slow down.
GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

They're a business.  They are in business to provide a service and make a profit.  They aren't going to lower the price to attract more customers that they wouldn't already attract as then everything falls apart and goodbye Hughesnet.  Secondly, twice as many customers means half the speed, or even less, for you.   

If data were allowed to rollover, everyone would be saving data and then would have a movie streaming fest, slowing the system to a crawl and making it unusable for everyone.  The data caps and the speed caps MUST BE in place to enable every customer to use the service.  Think of a six lane highway:  Only so much traffic can go down this road lest it slow to a crawl and everybody sits there.  Now, try to throw twice that traffic in there, which is what would happen if people could stockpile data and then use a slew of it later.  You couldn't even get on the road, let alone move an inch. 

Data and speed caps are in place so you and I can use the service.  Satellite internet has a finite throughput that must be divided up as equally as possible and have governors that keep it from overloading.  


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nancyseger2015
Freshman

hughesnet is , one of the worst companies i hae ever been with, my contract is up soon, Thank God, i will go with total highspeed. unlimited for 70 a month.
nancyseger2015
Freshman

Hugesnet was our only choice when i signed up ,Thank God other companies our growing out this way
HerEntrprs
New Member

Their are many months I don't use all of my data. When I don't, it would be nice if Hughesnet would roll that data over to the following month, just so I don't run out with a big update in the future.  Keep the price as is, and if a customer actually needs more each month, the customer needs to buy the upgrade. It is a win win for both Hughesnet and the customers.

If I lived in area that had unlimited cable I would use them instead of Hughesnet. Unfortunately, I don't. So I am stuck with them. I do have to admit though, since I signed up for Gen4 it has improved some. Thank God for small favors!
rodrob43
New Member

Is there any way we can keep Microsoft from updating our computers to W10? I don't want their damn program. I'm using Linux on one of my two machines. Will it be affected by this update?
BirdDog
Assistant Professor

rodrob43, GWX Control Panel is one way: http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

The Linux machine will not be affected by any kind of Windows update.
HerEntrprs
New Member

So then tell me , why is it if you live in an area that has cable, you can get unlimited usage? I believe the cable companies get their data from satellites also.
GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

HerEntrprs,

Completely different infrastructure and method of providing the service. 


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GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

HerEntrprs,

To add, although cable uses satellites to relay their TV services and such, as do the individual networks they provide, the internet they provide is hardwired.  It doesn't use satellites. 


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HerEntrprs
New Member

Then what does it use? It has to come from somewhere.
GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

Mostly fiber optic, these days, which has replaced actual wiring. 


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HerEntrprs
New Member

I know it comes thru on fiber optic. What I am trying to find out is, where do the cable companies have their internet originate. It travels thru fiber optic, but it doesn't originate there. It all comes from satellites. Maybe larger ones and more of them than Hughesnet has, but it comes from satellites. If you know differently, please feel free to tell me. I can admit it if I am wrong.