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ZTEDK
Freshman

De-icing?

Does Hughes offer an add-on device for de-icing a dish?  If so, how well does it work?  If not, anybody here have positive experience with 3rd party de-icing options?  In the 6 years I've had satellite services from two providers, I've had to de-ice mine at least once every winter ... 18 feet off the ground on the roof.

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GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

Re: De-icing?

@ZTEDK

 

HughesNet themselves do not have anything for this, nor do they recommend anything, as far as I know.  

 

The one thing that does seem to be recommended a lot by customers is Rain Ex, which seems to make the dish less susceptible to having ice stick to it.  But, of course, at 18 feet up I don't imagine appying this on a regular basis would be that easy, either.  Smiley Sad  

 

With this said, I'm sure others will reply with advice.  I know that there are heaters that people use on other dishes, and maybe even HughesNet dishes.  


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ZTEDK
Freshman

Re: De-icing?

@GabeU

Thank you.  I had not thought of RainX ... hmmm.  Certainly worth a try.  To de-ice, I have used windshield washer/de-icer, doused repeatedly with a trickle running from a bottle duck-taped to a stick, standing on a ladder that got me within five feet.  (Ever heard of The Red Green Show?)  Just have to wait for the wind to calm down!  Windshield washer fluid wasn't made for faces or eyeglasses.  This winter, I was not lucky enough to get a sunny, calm, warm-ish (25+) day after the storms that iced my dish.  Otherwise, that works!

 

GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

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@ZTEDK

 

I actually use warm water when I need to get ice off, and a broom when I need to get snow off, but I have a pole install, where I can easily get at the dish.  I can't imagine having to deal with a dish that is that high up.  Smiley Sad 

 

My follks have their dish installed on the back of their garage, and though it's not as high as yours, I still cringe every time I see my stepfather crawling up that ladder to try to knock the snow off of it, and living just south of Buffalo, we get a LOT of snow.  Smiley Tongue  

 

I do know that there are heaters that are applied to the back of the dish and that people use a lot with DirecTV and Dish Network dishes, but I don't know if they can cause any type of warping.  But I, like you, would surely find it nice if HughesNet offered some type of heater.  It would definitely make things easier, especially in cases like yours.    


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ZTEDK
Freshman

Re: De-icing?

@GabeU

I'll call Hughes again (sat on hold until I gave up just now; prolly on holiday staffing), but thought I'd see if anybody had real world experience with devices.

 

Yeah, I found heaters on the web when I looked into it in the winter, but that's not a good time to look into it!  Even on that south side of the roof, snow is there all winter, often a foot or more.  No place for an old fart to be climbing around.  So I'll have to look again to refresh the brain on it now in Spring.

 

You'd agree, it seems, that getting a 3rd party product bears some risk unless it was approved by Hughes.  Warpage, or whatever.  In any case, I hope somebody here has experience with a heater.

 

Buffalo, you say?  Where the lake rises up and falls on you in the winter, as with Watertown.  I was in Rochester for 8 years.  But now I'm on the east side of the Adirondacks, where we seem to get less snow every year.  Still, we get a few wicked storms each winter, and it's the sloppy, sleety, icy stuff that mucks up the dish.  Snow sticks to the ick and piles up.  Dry snow, no problem of course.  It seems that a thin skin of ice or sticky snow degrades performance, but lets it live.

 

Use warm water on ice?  Yow, that's it!  All I need is to hook up my hose to the bottom of the hot water heater, which is nearby through the crawl space door, and blast away!  Assuming I have exterior grade duct tape on hand when the hot water bursts my cheap hose.

 

I have an open yard about 40 ft deep to the south, then acres of big pines that aren't done growing yet.  That's why I had them put the antenna so high.  It's a steep roof, too.  But the contract says they will install up to 20 ft.  One of the two installer guys said, "I don't care.  I wouldn't go up there."  The other guy laughed and scrambled around up there like a bird.

 

Then I learned that this new high-speed Hughes rig has a higher angle than my old Dish Network dish, which is still up there, right below the Hughes ... thank god because it gave me something to hold onto while trying to navigate that half-full half-gallon jug at the end of the stick.  Even considered strapping myself to the Dish dish.  LOL.

 

Then I wised up and bought that Prestone De-Icer that shoots like 15 feet.  Do NOT get that stuff in your eyes!  It worked great, shooting between the gusts best I could, with my other arm across my face.  Used a whole can of it, though, since a third of it blew away.  Now I'll probably find out it corrodes shingles and damages the finish on the dish.  But it was sweet watching that stuff slide down the dish.  Small minds thing.

 

Having no other use for a ladder that long, it's too expensive to get one just for that purpose.  But I'd have endless fun with a drone and blow torch (attached with duct tape and bailing wire, of course)!

 

Well, at least I'm having fun telling the story, with the humor happily at my expense.  Thanks for your participation!

 

GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

Re: De-icing?


@ZTEDK wrote: 

Buffalo, you say?  Where the lake rises up and falls on you in the winter, as with Watertown. 


ROFLMAO!!!  I never thought of it that way, but that's about right.  Smiley Tongue  


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C0RR0SIVE
Associate Professor

Re: De-icing?

Here's what I have gathered over the years...

#1: Dish Heaters - They can emit RF that can interfear with 2-way communications, however, some people find them useful.  The next downside is, if it's cold enough, the heater will just be blowing away a few watts of power and doing nothing to get the surface of the dish warm enough to melt the snow.  These heaters must be installed on the backside, and really, are mostly useless.

There won't be enough wattage to do much of anything, and if you did get one with a high enough wattage you would likely warp the dish.  45w of power over a large surface area isn't much.

#2: Rain-X Pre-Treatment:  Works wonders, but it needs occasional application to be effective, and wont stop heavy wet snow from piling up.  To apply, use soapy water to clean the dish, then buff the dish with Rain-X.

#3: Something that comes to mind, why not just setup a washer system?  Grab a few small spray nozels and outline the the rim of the dish, or place them on the arm of the dish pointed at the dish.  Hook some tubing to them, route the tubing to the ground to a small pump, and pump the washer fluid up.  Think of it like a windshield washer, except, home made, and spraying at the dish while you're comfortably on the ground with a 5 gallon bucket of de-icer and a pump sitting in it.

GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

Re: De-icing?


@C0RR0SIVE wrote:


#3: Something that comes to mind, why not just setup a washer system?  Grab a few small spray nozels and outline the the rim of the dish, or place them on the arm of the dish pointed at the dish.  Hook some tubing to them, route the tubing to the ground to a small pump, and pump the washer fluid up.  Think of it like a windshield washer, except, home made, and spraying at the dish while you're comfortably on the ground with a 5 gallon bucket of de-icer and a pump sitting in it.


Just...wow.  I would have never, EVER, thought of that.  Good idea.  


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Amanda
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Re: De-icing?

I googled "deicing satellite dish" and clicked on the first video in the results. I was not disappointed.

GabeU
Distinguished Professor IV

Re: De-icing?

The contraption I have for clearing snow off of my DirecTV dish is a kitchen broom with the head taped sideways onto the broom handle, then the handle taped onto one one of those telescopic poles you use for hanging Christmas lights on your eaves and such.  It's ugly, but it works.  LOL.  

 

Sometime this year I'm just going to get one of those "Webster" duster heads and attach it to the telescopic pole, as it has the same threads.  


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