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Re: Rapid data drain during second half of data cycle

Is that spot test the same thing I did way back at the beginning of the thread? If so, it showed no data being used at all, during the down time.

But, I can run it again. Maybe this evening when the boys are at swim practice and I'm at the gym.
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Re: Rapid data drain during second half of data cycle


@Sweetpea3829wrote:
Is that spot test the same thing I did way back at the beginning of the thread? If so, it showed no data being used at all, during the down time.

But, I can run it again. Maybe this evening when the boys are at swim practice and I'm at the gym.

Yep, I missed that.  It's the same test.  

 

Unfortunately, with no way to be able to monitor the data amount, there's no way to be able to say, one way or the other, what happened to your data while everything was off earlier.  There's no way to see if something really used it, and if so, what?  There's also no way to show that something didn't use it.  

 

To be honest, it's going to be hard to prove anything, both with the data slide, and whether you're being "charged" for data that you didn't use, like earlier, without any non Hughes way of being able to count it.  I know that buying a router that can monitor data usage, and especially the kind that can monitor it by device, probably isn't possible right now, but without that, proving anything is going to be virtually impossible.  The ones that can monitor data as a whole, like I have, will run you around $40 or so, but the ones that can monitor data by device is well over $100, and probably closer to $200.  At this point, I really don't think you need anything like the latter, as really, all you're trying to do at this point is show what data is actually being used, not necessarily what's using it.  That kind of thing you can often do by process of elimination, but just monitoring the data as a whole isn't really possible without even a basic router like mine.  I know that's not what you want to hear, but that's really what you're up against.  

 

With a basic router that monitors data, you could show if something used data, like earlier when everything is apparently off, yet data was still used, and comparing data usage in the router to data usage by Hughes.  So say if you used 5GB during the first half of the month, according to the router, and the same during the latter half of the month, again according to the router, you could compare it to what Hughes says, and if Hughes said you used more during the latter half, that's where you'll be able to say, "But look, I used the same during both halves."  

 

Again, I know it's not what you want to hear, but without a way to monitor the data used, even as a whole, there's really no way to be able to prove anything, as the only thing you can really prove, at this point, is what your laptop used.  Prior versions of Networx can monitor data usage on your laptop, too, just in case we wanted to make sure that Glasswire was correct.  But again, that's only your laptop.  

 

So really, again, the bottom line is that, in order to prove anything, you've really got to have a router that can monitor data usage.  And like I said, it doesn't need to be one of the expensive ones that monitor it by device, but at least one that monitors it as a whole.  Smiley Sad  


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Re: Rapid data drain during second half of data cycle

Turning Wifi back on for the laptop.  Nothing has been on, nothing should have been using data.  Current stats:

image.pngHN data immediately upon turning on the wifi for the laptop.image.pngHN data after letting everything roll through and update...just a 4MB difference.image.pngGW during the time period when the laptop was shut down. There is a slight lag in the graph, but that's expected.

Re: Rapid data drain during second half of data cycle

So in a nutshell, 150MB of data was used during the time period when my laptop was not connected for Wifi.  For the record, I did not unplug anything, as I didn't have time this evening.  I just turned off the wifi for the laptop.  

 

I did confirm that all tablets/devices were not on for Wifi.  Our phones are not, either.  Next, I'm going to completely unplug the router as you suggested, @GabeU.  I'll see if I can do that tomorrow (Wednesdays are tractor auction day, so we'll see).  

 

Between the 150MB this afternoon/evening, and the 100MB this morning, I'm a bit concerned.  What could be using data?  The printers?  They shouldn't be.  The Chromecast dongle?  It hasn't been activated since last fall.  

 

But moreover, just in posting this update, 10MB have been used.  Inconsequential, yes.  And it actually matches the GW data.  But, when we consider that the GW data usually shows higher than the HN, due to compression, I have to ask why that isn't happening now.  And also, when we consider that my kids were using two tablets at the same time on an online math game, for over an hour, and that only used what, 30MB last week, it seems like the data is being depleted much faster.  

 

As far as buying a new router...it isn't in the cards.  We are supposed to be moving a garage for my husband this spring, and have a concrete pad to pour, etc.  There are no extra dollars this year, lol.  

Re: Rapid data drain during second half of data cycle

I figured I might as well do this now.  I've got some stuff to get done that does not require the laptop/internet.  So, starting data is attached.  I'm going to unplug the router...maybe even for the entire night.  We'll see what happens.  I will still access the forum from my phone.  Also, notice how much data has been used just since I last posted.  I checked FB.  And peeked at Ancestry to see if there had been an update to my test.  image.png

Re: Rapid data drain during second half of data cycle

Turning everything back on at 11AM.  HN data shows 6mb used, which is incidental, and likely just from the status page catching up.  I'm going to turn the Wifi back off, but not unplug the router when I'm done posting here.  

 

Stats as of right now.  image.pngGW showing no data usage from the laptop during the time when the router was off.image.pngHN upon boot upimage.pngHN just a few minutes after bootup. All I've done is come here to post this. That's 10MB used here at the forums in a couple of minutes.

Re: Rapid data drain during second half of data cycle

And I'm turning off Wifi to the laptop again.  Starting data is 3806 MB image.pngGW shows 90MB used in the past 10 minutes, lol. Most of which is Host processing.image.png

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Re: Rapid data drain during second half of data cycle

Been lurking and monitoring this novel of a thread, lol. Would be curious if @Liz or @Amanda can see anything connected when you say you have everything turned off. Would be helpful info if they have time to check.

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Are they able to tell on their end? Because that would be really helpful. In particular, when I turned off the WiFi on the laptop, and HN still showed 100-150 MB of data being used. I would be interested in what that was, because none of the devices were connected.

And of course, we see no data was used when I unplugged the router completely.

Re: Rapid data drain during second half of data cycle

Had to plug back in at 12pm for the neighbor.  Stats.image.png