About r3wt

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Gwalk900 wrote: I'll try to answer some of your questions:   Shills and canned responses. In my case I have been a Hughes subscriber for 13+ years and 3 different Hughes hardware platforms. I post here in the Community because in years past I found the phone support system to be difficult to use ... language issues, tier one level script driven support and so on .... Who better than someone that actually uses the service and equipment on a daily basis to share information with fellow users.   I am not compensated in any way ... I pay my bill every month the same as everyone else. The same is true for all the other "Community Regulars", @BirdDog, @Corrosive, @GabeU and all the others.   Responses can appear "canned" for a number of reasons .... I have over 8500 posts in the Community .. many of those are in reply to repeated questions (how do I purchase/apply tokens?), in this Community we have "macros" and some of us have saved those macros so as to have a complete answer that has graphics included ... why reinvent the wheel with every answer?   Your root questions seems to be: "what is the real limit on that slow data? I need the internet primarily for work, and I need to know exactly what the real limit is so i can plan accordingly"   Answer: It can be difficult to find a definitive answer by searching the Community because of the number of generations of HughesNet platforms and range of plan offerings within each platform.   A "premium" HN7000s plan will have a max "up to" speed of 1.6 Mbps, a late night unmetered period and a daily data limit and refresh. A legacy Spaceway-3 HN9000 system will have a completely different set of performance values as will the Spaceway-3 "Gen4 wannabe" monthly plans. A true Gen4 Echostar 17 will have a entirely different set of "rules" and performance parameters. Lastly we have the Gen5 Echostar 19 platform and it is vastly different.   All of the above, with the exception of the 7000s, share one trait: They are "spot-beam" systems. 120 Beams in the case of Spaceway-3, 60 Beams for Gen4 ES17  ... and about 120 for Gen5 ES19. Each beam covers a certain geographical area. Users are not evenly dispersed  ... some beams can be at or near saturation while others have capacity to spare. Your service is shared on a number of levels, it is shared at the "satellite" level ... total capacity/all active users, it is further divided by the number of active users on a given beam and it is further shared by the number of devices that are connected at your Networks LAN level. This is why, among other reasons, that speeds can not be "guarantied"  neither in or out of FAP.   Currently Spaceway-3 users can continue to expect poor performance until many users migrate to Gen5 but it still is going to be beam load dependant until SP-3 EOL   Gen4 ES17 users can expect to see improvement as users are moved to ES19 Gen5 ES19 users can expect pretty good stability for a number of years but .... there will be certain beams that will reach or exede local beam capacity and then their speeds will first start to suffer "Prime-Time" slow downs followed by perhaps constant poor performance. It will happen, in time.   You seem to be asking for a hard and fast answer to a question that simply has too many variables. You simply cannot expect the same performance and stability to a satellite connection as you would from a ground based system. Watch your rate of data consumption, stay out FAP in the first place.           So basically they will oversell the beams regardless of them being over capacity to guarantee the speed advertised. I'm guessing though dishonest, its probably legal. **bleep**in A. ... View more

I'm about to enter FAP, i don't want to waste my bandwidth doing speedtests. It just feels more sluggish than usual. like i'm pre-emptive FAP'd ... View more

C0RR0SIVE wrote: Not really... The Diagnostics Code is derived from the status of all fields in the Hourly History and spans 3 hours.  So a single red mark on anything can cause a diagnostic code, and a healthy system will have 0000-0000-0000-0005. Curiously, have you checked the hourly history?  Or done any troubleshooting for your speed issues? Maybe they need a faq page or something. it would be nice if that were documented so i wouldn't have to come here and ask. Anyway, thanks for helping. I'm not mad or hostile, just frustrated. the data cap makes me antsy haha ... View more

GabeU wrote: r3wt wrote: So its 375 kbytes/s, but not guaranteed? that's not too bad i guess. should be enough for work probably. def no youtube or streaming. Thanks for the help.  Why?  As stated, many have streamed at 3Mbps, and if you can stream you can watch Youtube.  People that have gotten 2Mbps have streamed as well.     Also, it sounds like ChrisVZ has Gen4, not Gen5.     Lastly, Hughesnet doesn't shut anyone off.  Though I've never heard of anyone being throttled to even a slower than normal FAP speed, I suppose it's possible, but they don't shut anyone off.     One last thing, the "canned responses" are responses based on what people have experienced.  They aren't "propoganda."           nm. thanks for your response. ... View more

C0RR0SIVE wrote: When you open putty, it should be under Terminal > Line Discipline Options Try setting the Local Line Editing to Force On, and see if that works... Some remote devices don't like local line editing, but it's worth a shot if Mosh isn't cutting it for ya. From my understanding, instead of PuTTY sending the data as it's typed, it will wait till you have hit enter for the line , so you should only have to suffer the agony of a single round trip when you press enter instead of a trip each time you hit the keyboard. You *might* also want to play with Line Echo, i've never tried either option, but those two are usually used together from what I have read in the PuTTy documentation. Thanks, that did the trick. only qualms are that it shows plaintext on password fields and you have to press enter for keyboard shortcuts to work. ... View more

Gwalk900 wrote: I would audit my usage patterns so as to reduce needless usage. There are browsers extensions that will go a long way in blocking Ads and HTML5 video pre-fetch. Using lower resolutions for needed video playback will reduce the amount of data used. Many webpages auto refresh so don't leave an open tab or window active .... each auto refresh burns data.   With a 20/50 plan you only have 667 MB per day "budget" on average if you are to avoid FAP entirely. Install Glasswire on your Windows based machines so you have details on which programs or processes are using the most data. In most cases you can alter settings so as to conserve your data.     By auto refresh to you mean pages that simply use the meta refresh header or javascript to reload the page entirely? if so, that's actually not very common anymore. I think what you meant was "realtime" data (like XHR ,WebSockets, (much less commonly) SSE) - class off web requests that eat data. I'm probably the last person here who needs to be coached in what eats data, but i realize you were trying to help, so thank you. my issue is that i am a programmer of sorts, so my line of work involves quite a bit of downloading modules, libraries, packages, tools, wireframes, etc ,plus realtime chats via slack, skype, etc. high data usage comes with the territory to some extent, though truthfully most of my data usage in this instance came from watching too much youtube and attempting to use tubitv. fyi, for anyone else with hughesnet, maybe avoid tubitv. it doesn't use cutting edge*ish codecs like netflix, so it really eats the data fast, plus it has a few bugs on ps4, like jumping back to the start of a movie after an add. plus the content is chopped liver for the most part. ... View more

GabeU wrote: r3wt wrote: Corrosive, Not gonna lie, that sounds pretty ominous, but it is understandable. Hopefully if i do go over whoever makes such decisions will see that I am very frugal with bandwidth. Mostly ssh/git and downloading libs/packages. I think it would take a considerable amount of constant data usage for them to slow the service any further than they normally do when one goes into FAP.  With that said, the average download speed of 3Mbps that most people who have gone into FAP have experienced is still enough to do most things.  People have actually still streamed while in FAP, so running out of your data allotment isn't an end all be all.  That's not to say that I would recommend constant streaming when one has gone into FAP, nor constant, round the clock downloading of files, but only demonstrating what's possible for the average Gen5 user.    So its 375 kbytes/s, but not guaranteed? that's not too bad i guess. should be enough for work probably. def no youtube or streaming. Thanks for the help.    One question i'd love to see answered, when it says "As low as 1mbps per second or lower", what exactly qualifies one for the "or lower" portion of that statement? would love to see a staff response on this point.  ... View more

ChrisVZ wrote: I have hit FAP conditions on a couple occassions, usually due to windows forcing an update to my computer.  For a very short time after my data runs out, I have speeds decent enough to check emails or visit text based sites, but anything other than that is not a plesant experience.  After a while the speeds seem to drop to such a low rate that everything is bjorked, and even navigating to the hughesnet page to buy tokens takes several minutes of loading. I appreciate your post ChrisVZ. I knew the canned responses i was getting initially were obvious propaganda, with plenty of reassurements, yet absent on facts or anecdotal evidence, so its nice to hear the truth of a real customers' experience.. Appreciate the heads up. I may just have to bite the bullet and upgrade the plan. :robotfrustrated: ... View more

Corrosive, no i haven't. I looked for something like that but can't seem to find such a setting. Any ideas where i might find it? ... View more

Corrosive, Not gonna lie, that sounds pretty ominous, but it is understandable. Hopefully if i do go over whoever makes such decisions will see that I am very frugal with bandwidth. Mostly ssh/git and downloading libs/packages. ... View more

Thank you for your post bare65, that is reassuring enough. I guess I'll err on the side of caution, but if I do run out and I have to buy some tokens i guess that will be ok. One more thing, are we able to upgrade our plans or is there a fee for that sort of thing? do you have to wait to the end of the contract?   Overall, It's been a shock coming from the city and having 350gb a month limit broadband. But, I have to say I am rather impressed thus far with Hughes Net. The only drawback for me personally is that ftp and ssh are pretty painfully slow to use but i'll get used to it i guess. ... View more