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Is unlimited data in Hughesnet future?
It's comical how, after he learns more about the system he's been claiming to know so much about, the complaint then shifts to wanting them to offer 150GB at "10Mbps".
"I try and binge them and then move on but if they are in 4K I want to get that experience without worrying about my data going away." Good luck doing that with 10Mbps you NOW claim they should be able to provide. SMH.
"If directv can give you 4K and 3D channels constantly then Hughes can cover high speed internet they choose not to because they think it’s all about speed." No offense, Saxgod, but with you making that comparison I question your statement, "I’m an IT Audit consultant so I get how networks work.", as by comparing the abilities of DirecTV and it's one way system to Hughes' two way system it's evident you really don't get how networks work. SMH.
BTW, Saxgod, what's the throughput of Exede's system and it's number of subscribers? You keep making direct comparisons with HughesNet. What's the throuput of Exede, and it's number of subscribers? Oh, and just for fun, what's the upload limit of DirecTV, since you're comparing HughesNet to them, too. Oh, that's right, they don't have upload, and the way they download content to their receivers is completely different than streaming on an ISP, but you know that, because you know networks, right?
I mean wouldn’t a customer be wanting to have maxed out Service. I find it out that business can get 250gb plans but individuals can’t. That’s funny to me. I guess I need to setup a home business just so I can have access to the 250gb data plan lol.
Anyway HughesNet may have the most customers now I don’t know. I know exede has over 600k customers it’s services and now with Viasat 2 operational that’s why their service speeds are comparable to HughesNet. The reviews I’ve seen online assume the service doesn’t have unlimited capability and can only get up to 12mbps. That’s clearly not true since Viasat 2 is up.
Anyway if you want those links I can add them in another post. Now as for Hughes it says on their website they have surpassed 1 million active users. Now who does the market think is better and has more opportunity? Well the market has Viasat at 74 a share and echostar(hughsnet) SATS if you’re curious, at 59 a share.
Viasat is about to surpass hughsnet sadly. That’s sad but it is what it is. I’m probably going to bounce between the two of them but who cares. So after my Hughes contract expires if I don’t see any changes I’m gonna jump to exede.
I’m getting tired of the bullying though on this forum. I figure if language isn’t allowed you’d think the moderators would cut down on bullying. Then again I wonder if the moderators are the bullies. People are getting awfully defensive for HughesNet when all I’m asking for is what businesses get. I thought 50gb was the max for home but a business get 250gb? That’s disappointing but I’m sure you’ll be just fine with it. You seem to love everything about Hughes and don’t question anything and repeat verbatim what customer service reps repeat over the phone. Hmmm are you really a customer or do you work for Hughes GabeU. Very fishy how you don’t want more data options. That’s very strange. But really made me think customer rep was when you said exactly what the customer service rep said to me on the phone not 10 minutes after you wrote that to me. Very fishy. So I’m gonna stop trying to conversat with you cause you’ll twist this to be in favor of Hughes. You’ll defend it no matter what. That’s why I was hoping you’d hear my complaint and run it up the flag pole to offer more data without having to buy token packs. To get 150gb cost 400 dollars. That’s ridiculous.
Anyway if you want the satellite articles about viasat and their expansions that are starting in 2019 I can provide it. That expansion will allow me to use my 4k streaming on a regular basis not just off peak time. Okay have a good day at Hughes. Tell them thanks for the service I enjoy it. I was trying to give them advice on how to make it better but I guess the cheerleaders don’t want that kind of posts on here.
- You act like you do by the way you act. When I said why can’t we have 150gb plans you say that’s not possible yet business plans go up to 250gb and have the same specs as personal plans. So I’m confused what YOU think I don’t know the difference of. It seems you think over 50gb plans don’t exist but they do.
- And yes you keep defending something they offer to businesses and act like it’s not possible for homes. Like I said I guess I should call my home a home business so I have the same speeds available. And if you want to know speeds and other specs do what I do. Call exede, call HughesNet, and call Directv. Directv keeps expanding their satellites as is exede. Hughes seems to be doing just enough and that sucks in my book.
Saxgod wrote:
You act like you do by the way you act. When I said why can’t we have 150gb plans you say that’s not possible yet business plans go up to 250gb and have the same specs as personal plans. So I’m confused what YOU think I don’t know the difference of. It seems you think over 50gb plans don’t exist but they do.Really? SME plans? Do you realize the ratio of SME plans to residential plans? Using that as proof that the system can handle offering higher data plans is tantamount to the argument of people being able to buy as many tokens as they want. And lets be clear, higher data plans at full speed, not the 10Mbps plans you eventually changed to.
I'm done with this. It's getting quite ridiculous. There comes a point when arguing the facts and limitations of a system to someone who simply won't accept them is moot.
Have a lovely day.
Viasat has the following...
Wildblue-1
Viasat-1
Viasat-2 (soon)
Viasat-3 (2019 if they are **bleep** lucky and it doesn't sit delayed for over a year)
Hughesnet has the following...
A few leases on random satellites for HN7000, they used AMC-9, Satmex5, Horizons1, not sure if those are all still in use. (yes, those still exist)
Spaceway3
Jupiter-1 (Echostar-17)
Jupiter-2 (Echostar-19)
Jupiter-3 (Echostar-24/21?, 2021 if they are lucky and it doesn't get delayed)
Also, Viasat-2 is NOT in use yet, it's still in testing, that's not why they can offer higher speeds currently, what they have done is hard-throttled video to a certain speed/resolution depending on your service plan, thus freeing up much needed bandwidth to allow for potentially higher caps.
Also, no one is stopping you from canceling your consumer account and signing up for the $500, 250GB Business package, it's rather nice aside from the cost. Don't recomend customers doing that though, as the business plans are much more costly per GB, plus the moment you are an SME customer, you lose the ability to get support via the Community. I would say that less than 1/10th of the SME customers are sitting on the top tier plan, as most use the satellite link as a pure backup link in the event someone cuts the fiber at a place. I would wager most SME customers are sitting on the Business 75, or Business 150 plan.- Here you go.
http://www.satellitetoday.com/telecom/2016/02/10/dankberg-viasat-3-satellites-will-have-more-capacity-than-the-rest-of-the-world-combined/
Look what should worry us is while HughesNet is maintaining what they have I can’t find plans to expand their service. I think Gen5 will be here for 5 years until Gen6 comes. So while that happens Viasat will be launched in 2019 and Gen6 will launch in 2022. Is that not worrying you guys? Nope, because Hughesnet is a MAJOR sponsor and player with OneWeb which is one of the companies that could put Viasat and Hughes under as consumer grade companies.
I am willing to wager that Hughesnet could end up as a VAR for OneWeb offering low latency connectivity.Also, Hughesnet doesn't provide just internet connectivity, they develop technologies for other agencies, and for the government. So, I am not worried about them really going under.
Also, here's some data on Jupiter-3, http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/jupiter-3.htm
One last thing to note, Hughesnet was playing it safe... Viasat was already working on VSAT-3, where as Hughesnet litterally just created the order for J-3. There was most likely concern that the market may have been at maximum profit potential, which J2 proved otherwise, hence the reason they ordered J3.
Viasat is taking a huge gamble on ordering so many satellites at one time, especially with OneWeb coming online in 2019.
To be fairly honest... If OneWeb offers ~50GB/m at $75 or less, I would go to them, just for the lower latency, and keep Hughesnet for my large heavy downloads.- Sorry viasat has 4 satellites and Viasat 3 is moving along fast and ready to launch in 2019. Not a lie. They had to delay launch of Viasat 2 cause SpaceX wasn’t able to put the satellite up in their position. So they contracted with another company. As for Viasat 3 they plan on having it up in 2019 for the US side and later times for the they two areas of the glove.
Curious how much is the business 150gb plan? Do you know? Anik-F2 (that "fourth" satellite) only provides 1.5Mbps, it's not used by Viasat anymore for anything unless you happen to be in remote parts of Canada, much like how Hughesnet isn't signing customers up for the three satellites that I listed as "one". If we want to go with your method, then Hughesnet has 6+.
Business 150 is $270/m with out promos.- Just FYI Viasat is doing a lot with the military as well. You can look on the market news for VSAT. Like i said the market thinks they are the one to go with for the long haul but hey I’m sure I’m wrong.
/shrugs/
Back to the topic, wont happen, not for some time. It would be stupid to increase data allowances when the satellite can't keep up with demand as is.- I don’t understand so you’re saying Viasat won’t be able to get the first satellite with their new speeds and allow them to offer 35mbps. Viasat 2 already allows for 30Mbps. That’s the new gold plans that will go wide once the test markets are done. They are already working on getting Viasat 2 implemented. Viasat 3 is being completed and they would get in serious problems if they miss their launch window. Their stock would crash. So I wouldn’t discount it. I think that’s silly to act like they won’t be able to get their stuff off. The gold plan seems really cool but I need a plan that streams 4K so it will be with the new satellite that’s going up. And as you know Gen6 won’t happen till 2022 and I’m assuming Gen6 will have the capabilities or more of what Viasat 3 can do.
Redacted by maratsade, as the info had already been posted by another user.
It does not worry me at all.
Saxgod wrote:
Here you go.
http://www.satellitetoday.com/telecom/2016/02/10/dankberg-viasat-3-satellites-will-have-more-capacity-than-the-rest-of-the-world-combined/
Look what should worry us is while HughesNet is maintaining what they have I can’t find plans to expand their service. I think Gen5 will be here for 5 years until Gen6 comes. So while that happens Viasat will be launched in 2019 and Gen6 will launch in 2022. Is that not worrying you guys?Looks like this company offers what you need, so you'll be jumping ship to join them soon, I expect. Are you not with them because they don't offer service in your area? (Forgive me if you've already mentioned why you're with HN and not another company).
Saxgod wrote:
I don’t understand so you’re saying Viasat won’t be able to get the first satellite with their new speeds and allow them to offer 35mbps. Viasat 2 already allows for 30Mbps. That’s the new gold plans that will go wide once the test markets are done. They are already working on getting Viasat 2 implemented. Viasat 3 is being completed and they would get in serious problems if they miss their launch window. Their stock would crash. So I wouldn’t discount it. I think that’s silly to act like they won’t be able to get their stuff off. The gold plan seems really cool but I need a plan that streams 4K so it will be with the new satellite that’s going up. And as you know Gen6 won’t happen till 2022 and I’m assuming Gen6 will have the capabilities or more of what Viasat 3 can do.
