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9 years ago

Plan & platforms

Can someone please explain the pro's & con's on the following plan & platforms. 1. Gen4 on J1 2. Gen5 on J1 3. Gen5 on J2 I have been trying to do research to find the best plan for m...

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Liz

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9 years ago

Hi C0RR0SIVE,

Yes, we do pitch the WiFi modem as a component of Gen 5, we just don't pitch that the HT1100 also works with Gen 5. Considering Gen 5 won't be available on EchoStar 17 for a while, there's no emphasis on the HT1100's compatibilty with Gen 5.

C0RR0SIVE

Associate Professor

9 years ago

Curiously...

Jezra wasn't you on an HN9000?

Liz, will the HT1100 be Jupiter II compatible? I would imagine it would need new software to be made aware of JII if so...

If Jezra was on an HN9000(I honestly can't remember whether he could see J1 or not!), and the HT1100 isn't Jupiter II compatible (even though it will be Gen5 compatible) then he would be stuck with the more costly HT2000w still.

So why keep an HT1100 unit around on Gen5 aside from those that don't want to be on the new bird? Hughes logic is beyond me lately.

C0RR0SIVE
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9 years ago
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For some reason I always thought you was on Spaceway3...

I am more curious about something else, but that may have to wait till "ask an engineer" day if we ever have one again... (HT2000 vs HT2000w, and yes, there is another modem, and strangely I can't find the w variants white papers on the Hughes site but can find the HT2000!)
Reggie
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9 years ago
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Thank you everyone for the great information. I think for now I will stay where I am. My service is the best it can be on Gen4. No need to spend extra money. With back surgery next month money is a little tight.
Liz
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9 years ago
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This is a good discussion, let's get some terminology cleared up:

Gen 5 is our latest generation of internet service which includes our latest plans (10, 20, 30, 50 GB) and features (25 Mbps down/3 up, Bonus Zone, Video Data Saver, etc.).

EchoStar XIX/19 is the new satellite we launched last December, which is one of the satellites that supports Gen 5, the other being EchoStar XVII/17. This is what most Gen 4 users are currently pointed at.

Jupiter 2 refers to the technology that powers the Gen 5 service.

With that being said, no, HT1100 users can't be pointed at EchoStar 19, but the HT2000w can work on both EchoStar 17 and 19.

Anyone else, like HN9000 or legacy users, will get the HT2000w if upgrading to Gen 5.

The HT2000 is the HT2000w, but without WiFi built in. That model is not planned for use in North America.

Hope this clears things up!
Reggie
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9 years ago
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Liz,
That answers my questions.

Thank You

Reggie
C0RR0SIVE
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9 years ago
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One would think it would be an option... /shrugs/ marketing is all I can say about that. -.-
C0RR0SIVE
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9 years ago
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I suspect there are minimal differences between the 2000 and 2000w in that respect.

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Can someone please explain the pro's & con's on the following plan & platforms.

1. Gen4 on J1

2. Gen5 on J1

3. Gen5 on J2

I have been trying to do research to find the best plan for my wife & myself. A little help from the champions would go a long way. I want to make an informed decision. At this time I'm on Gen4 with the Prime plan.

Thank you in advanced for your advice.

Reggie

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For some reason I always thought you was on Spaceway3...

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Thank you everyone for the great information. I think for now I will stay where I am. My service is the best it can be on Gen4. No need to spend extra money. With back surgery next month money is a little tight.

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This is a good discussion, let's get some terminology cleared up:

Gen 5 is our latest generation of internet service which includes our latest plans (10, 20, 30, 50 GB) and features (25 Mbps down/3 up, Bonus Zone, Video Data Saver, etc.).

EchoStar XIX/19 is the new satellite we launched last December, which is one of the satellites that supports Gen 5, the other being EchoStar XVII/17. This is what most Gen 4 users are currently pointed at.

Jupiter 2 refers to the technology that powers the Gen 5 service.

With that being said, no, HT1100 users can't be pointed at EchoStar 19, but the HT2000w can work on both EchoStar 17 and 19.

Anyone else, like HN9000 or legacy users, will get the HT2000w if upgrading to Gen 5.

The HT2000 is the HT2000w, but without WiFi built in. That model is not planned for use in North America.

Hope this clears things up!

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This is a good discussion, let's get some terminology cleared up:

Gen 5 is our latest generation of internet service which includes our latest plans (10, 20, 30, 50 GB) and features (25 Mbps down/3 up, Bonus Zone, Video Data Saver, etc.).

Jupiter 2 refers to the technology that powers the Gen 5 service.

With that being said, no, HT1100 users can't be pointed at EchoStar 19, but the HT2000w can work on both EchoStar 17 and 19.

Anyone else, like HN9000 or legacy users, will get the HT2000w if upgrading to Gen 5.

The HT2000 is the HT2000w, but without WiFi built in. That model is not planned for use in North America.

Hope this clears things up!

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Liz,

That answers my questions.

Thank You

Reggie

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Liz,

That answers my questions.

Thank You

Reggie

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One would think it would be an option... /shrugs/ marketing is all I can say about that. -.-

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One would think it would be an option... /shrugs/ marketing is all I can say about that. -.-

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I suspect there are minimal differences between the 2000 and 2000w in that respect.

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I suspect there are minimal differences between the 2000 and 2000w in that respect.

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