I am looking for software to make a complete backup of my PC to my external hard drive. I had Acronis and it failed me when I needed it, so that is out. Anyone using something that they can suggest I...
They did not install any files. I am trying to follow your suggestions now. Problem I am running into now is the download says it will take 4 days. Speed test shows great speed so I don't know what the heck is going on.
They did not install any files. I am trying to follow your suggestions now. Problem I am running into now is the download says it will take 4 days. Speed test shows great speed so I don't know what the heck is going on.
If you are speaking of the download of the Windows 8.1 installation file taking that long, being that you already installed a new copy through the remote service, perhaps you can just forego that step and try installing the Rollup and its prerequisites and the Update Client. Of course, those may take a while to download, too.
Microsoft's servers may be having a fit right now with all of the downloading going on (Tuesday Update & Creator's Update), and I don't think they play nice with Hughesnet's latency when they are stressed with lots of downloads. I've had so many problems with extremely long updates from them when my Hughesnet speeds were fine. At other times they were great. It's a crapshoot when it comes to the speeds of Windows updates.
Well I am making progress.. At least now I can check for updates. I have a ton of them as well. I am attempting to download them now. So that is good news. Saved up token bytes down to 2.1 GB. Guess I will be checking out the smart browsing feature this month since I don't reset til' the 3rd. (SMH)
Well that was short lived. I got excited way to early. Problem checking for updates error is back. Starting at square 1 again.
Ugh. Well, I'm clueless. This is one of the instances where a finite amount of data per month can be a definite hindrance to something important, as it's not like you can just start over again so easily when you don't have the data to do so, or prehaps even the time.
When I was having the problem I started again from scratch and used the new Windows 8.1 installation media I had created (I made a DVD). I started from scratch, perfroming a clean install, because when I finally got the answers about the two files I should install, plus the prerequisites for the one, I had, by then, tried a slew of different things to get the updates to work, and I thought that perhaps I had tainted the installation I had and wanted to start fresh. But, I had data left, plus the notebook I was trying to do all of this on was more or less a spare, so I could do it at my leisure. At least data wise you are in a different situation, and from the sounds of it the computer you are trying to get this to work on is either your main computer, or at least one you use very often.
I truly wish I had some other ideas for you to try. From the sounds of it, there's nothing wrong with your computer itself and it's strictly software related. That doesn't make it any less frustrating of a problem, though.
Everyone keep your fingers crossed. Some updates have downloaded and installed. Now a ton of them are in the process of downloading. We will see if they are sucessful.
I hoped it worked, or is at least still working (we know how long MS updates can sometimes take) for you.
I have noticed that sometimes, if it's been over a month or so since I last checked, my Windows 8.1 updates still tend to be a bit twitchy and will still show a failure to find updates. I try it again a couple more times and it eventually "catches" and downloads them.
Updates are still failing. Even remote assistance with level 2 techs can not fix it. To top it all off I can't even download Windows 10 from the Microsoft website. It will not go past 0%. Gheesh. The tech is going to make a exception so I don't have to pay for it even.
I must be crazy. With all the issue I have now I am adding something else in the mix. Gen 5 is being installed today. Oh boy I must love misery.
Anyone know a link I can try to get Windows 10 instead of this one....?
I suspect something is wrong somewhere if your downloads are always failing like that... I would caution against getting Win10 from anywhere but Microsoft.
Like Corrosive, I would NOT recommend downloading Windows 10 from anywhere other than Microsoft. You never really know for sure what you are getting if you download it from somewhere else, nor is it definite that it is the latest incarnation.
As for the updates continuing to fail. Wow. That's really too bad. Lots of headaches in addition to the work, I'm sure.
Perhaps with Gen5 you will have better luck downloading Windows 10 from Microsoft. If you have the means to download it using a different device and write it to DVD or USB flash drive, I would do that, being that the device in question seems to be having such a difficult time downloading anything from Microsoft.
Good luck and I hope the Gen5 install goes well for you.
So this is another mark on the chalkboard to suggest that the slow Microsoft downloads, or even the inability to do so, is related to Ge4. But, what it is about Gen4 is the question. As time goes on, I'm beginning to wonder if it has to do with the same thing that can cause problems with streaming. Many times the speed is there, but streaming still doesn't seem to work correctly, and I'm thinking that it may very well have to do with the speed not being "steady" due to congestion.
When I would get a good speed result when I had Gen4, even thought the speed was good the graph showing the "steadiness" of the speed looked like jagged mountains, whereas the graph ffrom a speed test with Gen5 is much more smooth. This, of course, is most likely due to congestion. And I think it's possible that Microsoft's servers are sensitive to this, and maybe even more sensitive with the latency added into the mix.
With regard to Windows 10, if you aren't already aware, make sure that "Updates from more than one place" is, at least, set to "PC's on my local network." DO NOT leave it set on "PC's on my local network, And PC's on the Internet," which is the default setting. This setting is really BAD. This may use ALL of your data before you realize what is going on. If you don't have a second or more Windows 10 PC's networked, then completely turn off "Updates from more than one place."
Again, glad to hear Gen5 is working well and it allowed you to upgrade properly.
I just checked that settings and it was already off. Not sure if they changed that setting default or not.
Thanks for the tip!
That's VERY good. That setting alone can use so much data. Perhaps enough people complained that Microsoft actually did something decent for once and changed the default setting. For them to basically use our bandwidth to share updates with everyone on the net was quite ridiculous.
Edit: BTW, I updated my Windows 10 laptop the other evening, and though it was only about 100MB, it went VERY quickly. With Gen4 this most likely would have taken quite some time. I'm beginning to think more and more that Gen5 is definitely making a difference with Microsoft updates.
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I am looking for software to make a complete backup of my PC to my external hard drive. I had Acronis and it failed me when I needed it, so that is out. Anyone using something that they can suggest I look into?
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HAH I GOT THAT LAST NIGHT ALL NIGHT LOL.... I spent MANY hours trying to troubleshoot that one...
It boils down to...
M$ update servers are too busy servicing everyone else...
OOORRRR
IPv6 is causing issues, disable it, this solved the issue for me strangely... It wanted to use IPv6 but couldn't.
OOORRRR
Check the \"advanced\" update options and make sure that your not trying to grab updates for other microsoft products, this solved it for a few.
There are other things to try, but those three are the simplest and stupidest ones that can solve the issue.
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HAH I GOT THAT LAST NIGHT ALL NIGHT LOL.... I spent MANY hours trying to troubleshoot that one...
It boils down to...
M$ update servers are too busy servicing everyone else...
OOORRRR
IPv6 is causing issues, disable it, this solved the issue for me strangely... It wanted to use IPv6 but couldn't.
OOORRRR
Check the \"advanced\" update options and make sure that your not trying to grab updates for other microsoft products, this solved it for a few.
There are other things to try, but those three are the simplest and stupidest ones that can solve the issue.
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The error code I just got was 8024402F
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Disabled IPv6 and updates still fail. This time no error code. Just says there was a problem checking for updates.
Disabled IPv6 and updates still fail. This time no error code. Just says there was a problem checking for updates.
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They did not install any files. I am trying to follow your suggestions now. Problem I am running into now is the download says it will take 4 days. Speed test shows great speed so I don't know what the heck is going on.
They did not install any files. I am trying to follow your suggestions now. Problem I am running into now is the download says it will take 4 days. Speed test shows great speed so I don't know what the heck is going on.
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They did not install any files. I am trying to follow your suggestions now. Problem I am running into now is the download says it will take 4 days. Speed test shows great speed so I don't know what the heck is going on.
If you are speaking of the download of the Windows 8.1 installation file taking that long, being that you already installed a new copy through the remote service, perhaps you can just forego that step and try installing the Rollup and its prerequisites and the Update Client. Of course, those may take a while to download, too.
Microsoft's servers may be having a fit right now with all of the downloading going on (Tuesday Update & Creator's Update), and I don't think they play nice with Hughesnet's latency when they are stressed with lots of downloads. I've had so many problems with extremely long updates from them when my Hughesnet speeds were fine. At other times they were great. It's a crapshoot when it comes to the speeds of Windows updates.
They did not install any files. I am trying to follow your suggestions now. Problem I am running into now is the download says it will take 4 days. Speed test shows great speed so I don't know what the heck is going on.
If you are speaking of the download of the Windows 8.1 installation file taking that long, being that you already installed a new copy through the remote service, perhaps you can just forego that step and try installing the Rollup and its prerequisites and the Update Client. Of course, those may take a while to download, too.
Microsoft's servers may be having a fit right now with all of the downloading going on (Tuesday Update & Creator's Update), and I don't think they play nice with Hughesnet's latency when they are stressed with lots of downloads. I've had so many problems with extremely long updates from them when my Hughesnet speeds were fine. At other times they were great. It's a crapshoot when it comes to the speeds of Windows updates.
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Well I am making progress.. At least now I can check for updates. I have a ton of them as well. I am attempting to download them now. So that is good news. Saved up token bytes down to 2.1 GB. Guess I will be checking out the smart browsing feature this month since I don't reset til' the 3rd. (SMH)
Well I am making progress.. At least now I can check for updates. I have a ton of them as well. I am attempting to download them now. So that is good news. Saved up token bytes down to 2.1 GB. Guess I will be checking out the smart browsing feature this month since I don't reset til' the 3rd. (SMH)
Thanks GabeU!
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Well that was short lived. I got excited way to early. Problem checking for updates error is back. Starting at square 1 again.
Well that was short lived. I got excited way to early. Problem checking for updates error is back. Starting at square 1 again.
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Well that was short lived. I got excited way to early. Problem checking for updates error is back. Starting at square 1 again.
Ugh. Well, I'm clueless. This is one of the instances where a finite amount of data per month can be a definite hindrance to something important, as it's not like you can just start over again so easily when you don't have the data to do so, or prehaps even the time.
When I was having the problem I started again from scratch and used the new Windows 8.1 installation media I had created (I made a DVD). I started from scratch, perfroming a clean install, because when I finally got the answers about the two files I should install, plus the prerequisites for the one, I had, by then, tried a slew of different things to get the updates to work, and I thought that perhaps I had tainted the installation I had and wanted to start fresh. But, I had data left, plus the notebook I was trying to do all of this on was more or less a spare, so I could do it at my leisure. At least data wise you are in a different situation, and from the sounds of it the computer you are trying to get this to work on is either your main computer, or at least one you use very often.
I truly wish I had some other ideas for you to try. From the sounds of it, there's nothing wrong with your computer itself and it's strictly software related. That doesn't make it any less frustrating of a problem, though.
Well that was short lived. I got excited way to early. Problem checking for updates error is back. Starting at square 1 again.
Ugh. Well, I'm clueless. This is one of the instances where a finite amount of data per month can be a definite hindrance to something important, as it's not like you can just start over again so easily when you don't have the data to do so, or prehaps even the time.
When I was having the problem I started again from scratch and used the new Windows 8.1 installation media I had created (I made a DVD). I started from scratch, perfroming a clean install, because when I finally got the answers about the two files I should install, plus the prerequisites for the one, I had, by then, tried a slew of different things to get the updates to work, and I thought that perhaps I had tainted the installation I had and wanted to start fresh. But, I had data left, plus the notebook I was trying to do all of this on was more or less a spare, so I could do it at my leisure. At least data wise you are in a different situation, and from the sounds of it the computer you are trying to get this to work on is either your main computer, or at least one you use very often.
I truly wish I had some other ideas for you to try. From the sounds of it, there's nothing wrong with your computer itself and it's strictly software related. That doesn't make it any less frustrating of a problem, though.
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Everyone keep your fingers crossed. Some updates have downloaded and installed. Now a ton of them are in the process of downloading. We will see if they are sucessful.
Everyone keep your fingers crossed. Some updates have downloaded and installed. Now a ton of them are in the process of downloading. We will see if they are sucessful.
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I hoped it worked, or is at least still working (we know how long MS updates can sometimes take) for you.
I have noticed that sometimes, if it's been over a month or so since I last checked, my Windows 8.1 updates still tend to be a bit twitchy and will still show a failure to find updates. I try it again a couple more times and it eventually \"catches\" and downloads them.
I hoped it worked, or is at least still working (we know how long MS updates can sometimes take) for you.
I have noticed that sometimes, if it's been over a month or so since I last checked, my Windows 8.1 updates still tend to be a bit twitchy and will still show a failure to find updates. I try it again a couple more times and it eventually \"catches\" and downloads them.
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Updates are still failing. Even remote assistance with level 2 techs can not fix it. To top it all off I can't even download Windows 10 from the Microsoft website. It will not go past 0%. Gheesh. The tech is going to make a exception so I don't have to pay for it even.
I must be crazy. With all the issue I have now I am adding something else in the mix. Gen 5 is being installed today. Oh boy I must love misery.
Anyone know a link I can try to get Windows 10 instead of this one....?
Updates are still failing. Even remote assistance with level 2 techs can not fix it. To top it all off I can't even download Windows 10 from the Microsoft website. It will not go past 0%. Gheesh. The tech is going to make a exception so I don't have to pay for it even.
I must be crazy. With all the issue I have now I am adding something else in the mix. Gen 5 is being installed today. Oh boy I must love misery.
Anyone know a link I can try to get Windows 10 instead of this one....?
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I suspect something is wrong somewhere if your downloads are always failing like that... I would caution against getting Win10 from anywhere but Microsoft.
I suspect something is wrong somewhere if your downloads are always failing like that... I would caution against getting Win10 from anywhere but Microsoft.
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Like Corrosive, I would NOT recommend downloading Windows 10 from anywhere other than Microsoft. You never really know for sure what you are getting if you download it from somewhere else, nor is it definite that it is the latest incarnation.
As for the updates continuing to fail. Wow. That's really too bad. Lots of headaches in addition to the work, I'm sure.
Perhaps with Gen5 you will have better luck downloading Windows 10 from Microsoft. If you have the means to download it using a different device and write it to DVD or USB flash drive, I would do that, being that the device in question seems to be having such a difficult time downloading anything from Microsoft.
Good luck and I hope the Gen5 install goes well for you.
Like Corrosive, I would NOT recommend downloading Windows 10 from anywhere other than Microsoft. You never really know for sure what you are getting if you download it from somewhere else, nor is it definite that it is the latest incarnation.
As for the updates continuing to fail. Wow. That's really too bad. Lots of headaches in addition to the work, I'm sure.
Perhaps with Gen5 you will have better luck downloading Windows 10 from Microsoft. If you have the means to download it using a different device and write it to DVD or USB flash drive, I would do that, being that the device in question seems to be having such a difficult time downloading anything from Microsoft.
Good luck and I hope the Gen5 install goes well for you.
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So this is another mark on the chalkboard to suggest that the slow Microsoft downloads, or even the inability to do so, is related to Ge4. But, what it is about Gen4 is the question. As time goes on, I'm beginning to wonder if it has to do with the same thing that can cause problems with streaming. Many times the speed is there, but streaming still doesn't seem to work correctly, and I'm thinking that it may very well have to do with the speed not being \"steady\" due to congestion.
When I would get a good speed result when I had Gen4, even thought the speed was good the graph showing the \"steadiness\" of the speed looked like jagged mountains, whereas the graph ffrom a speed test with Gen5 is much more smooth. This, of course, is most likely due to congestion. And I think it's possible that Microsoft's servers are sensitive to this, and maybe even more sensitive with the latency added into the mix.
With regard to Windows 10, if you aren't already aware, make sure that \"Updates from more than one place\" is, at least, set to \"PC's on my local network.\" DO NOT leave it set on \"PC's on my local network, And PC's on the Internet,\" which is the default setting. This setting is really BAD. This may use ALL of your data before you realize what is going on. If you don't have a second or more Windows 10 PC's networked, then completely turn off \"Updates from more than one place.\"
Again, glad to hear Gen5 is working well and it allowed you to upgrade properly.
So this is another mark on the chalkboard to suggest that the slow Microsoft downloads, or even the inability to do so, is related to Ge4. But, what it is about Gen4 is the question. As time goes on, I'm beginning to wonder if it has to do with the same thing that can cause problems with streaming. Many times the speed is there, but streaming still doesn't seem to work correctly, and I'm thinking that it may very well have to do with the speed not being \"steady\" due to congestion.
When I would get a good speed result when I had Gen4, even thought the speed was good the graph showing the \"steadiness\" of the speed looked like jagged mountains, whereas the graph ffrom a speed test with Gen5 is much more smooth. This, of course, is most likely due to congestion. And I think it's possible that Microsoft's servers are sensitive to this, and maybe even more sensitive with the latency added into the mix.
With regard to Windows 10, if you aren't already aware, make sure that \"Updates from more than one place\" is, at least, set to \"PC's on my local network.\" DO NOT leave it set on \"PC's on my local network, And PC's on the Internet,\" which is the default setting. This setting is really BAD. This may use ALL of your data before you realize what is going on. If you don't have a second or more Windows 10 PC's networked, then completely turn off \"Updates from more than one place.\"
Again, glad to hear Gen5 is working well and it allowed you to upgrade properly.
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I just checked that settings and it was already off. Not sure if they changed that setting default or not.
I just checked that settings and it was already off. Not sure if they changed that setting default or not.
Thanks for the tip!
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I just checked that settings and it was already off. Not sure if they changed that setting default or not.
Thanks for the tip!
That's VERY good. That setting alone can use so much data. Perhaps enough people complained that Microsoft actually did something decent for once and changed the default setting. For them to basically use our bandwidth to share updates with everyone on the net was quite ridiculous.
Edit: BTW, I updated my Windows 10 laptop the other evening, and though it was only about 100MB, it went VERY quickly. With Gen4 this most likely would have taken quite some time. I'm beginning to think more and more that Gen5 is definitely making a difference with Microsoft updates.
I just checked that settings and it was already off. Not sure if they changed that setting default or not.
Thanks for the tip!
That's VERY good. That setting alone can use so much data. Perhaps enough people complained that Microsoft actually did something decent for once and changed the default setting. For them to basically use our bandwidth to share updates with everyone on the net was quite ridiculous.
Edit: BTW, I updated my Windows 10 laptop the other evening, and though it was only about 100MB, it went VERY quickly. With Gen4 this most likely would have taken quite some time. I'm beginning to think more and more that Gen5 is definitely making a difference with Microsoft updates.
