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Hey, not a ham operator but I do have a problem with someone skilled in radio... I use my hughes.net like most people pretty much have the laptop and blueray player going constantly streaming a movies etc. New guy moves in and is paranoid about someone spying on him. From the questions posed by this man he thinks when he picks up our wifi (hughes.net) that it's cameras looking at him. Long story short we don't have any cameras connected to our wifi. All we can figure he thinks someones trying to trap him poaching. But I stay busy in my own little world and don't worry about anything else until my wifi starts getting interrupted continuously. It's works great for a few minutes then my dog gets in the window and barks in the direction of this new neighbors house and my wifi gets jammed etc. He had mentioned that he uses an illegally overpowered amplifier and linear and bilinear ? I have no idea what that stuff means and I guess I will need to learn but my question to you or anyone who might want to help is : Is there a particular filter I can have put on my dish to prevent his interruptions? I mean he asked us once if we had wireless cameras linked back to our house and I told him truthfully NO. So I need to adjust my own enterainment system to keep him out. I am not going to try and prove myself to a rogue radio madman. This is my first experience with this sort of thing. Any help would we be greatly appreciated. I called hughes.net tech support and they said they have no filters and no nothing about it.
- El Dorado Netwo7 years agoAdvanced Tutor
I didn't answer your question about your neighbor interfereing with your WiFi. I have never heard of ham radio transmissions interfering with Wifi. When you lose your WiFi connection, do you also lose wired connectivity? You'll need a laptop or desktop computer connected directly to the HughesNet modem with a network cable to check this.
Ham radio operates at relatively low frequencies, usually below 55 Mhz and very seldom above 440 Mhz. On the other hand, satellite communications operate at extremely high frequencies, well above 1,500 Mhz and often more than 30 Ghz (way, way up there).
WiFi signals are at 2.4 and 5 Ghz, and they don't share frequencies with ham bands. If there is interference from a ham station, you'll usually hear it in AM or FM radios or with TV channels. Find an AM radio, tune it to an unused frequency near the low end of the band, and see if it starts making more noise whenever you WiFi stops working.
Most self-respecting Ham Radio operators with work with you to eliminate "RFI" (Radio Frequency Interference).
Also, if you give me an address I can check the F C C database to see if there is a licensed Ham at that address. Anyone can do this since it is public record.- BirdDog7 years agoAssistant Professor
I'll just add "back in the day" when I maintained ATC and Ham frequency radios I saw them interfere with things you never thought they could or should given enough power and proximity. All radios emit some spurious frequencies at multiples of the assigned frequency. Normally at such low levels that it isn't a proble. But attach an amplifier that is poorly designed then those weak spurious signals can become quite strong and even inject into the electronics at the board level on nearby equipment. Not to mention induced into cables.
Only saying IMO it is possible for such interference to happen as lm8542 describes.
I'll shutup now. :smileyhappy:
- El Dorado Netwo7 years agoAdvanced Tutor
You're right, it is possible.
My own Ham radio station was interfering with my computer in a really odd way that's hard to describe. Certain types of video displays would freeze on the screen while I was transmitting.Turns out I had something called "common-mode RF current" coming from the antenna down the outside of the coax shield and into my shack.
Also, my wifi router was interfering with my radio receiver and inducing a regular, pulsing noise into the lower frequency bands.
If there is interference getting into the HughesNet wifi, it may be curable by placing several ferrite beads on all the cables (coax, network cables, and even the power cable, which already has one on it). But it might take a lot of them.
- GabeU7 years agoDistinguished Professor IV
I know very little about HAM radio, but if he's using amplifiers like you mention it wouldn't surprise me if it's screwing up your WiFi. Those things jack the power up quite a bit, throwing out a lot stronger signal. I don't know this from HAM radios but I am somewhat familiar with linear amplifiers used with CB radios.
I'm not familiar with any filter that can be used with the HughesNet system.
- BirdDog7 years agoAssistant Professor
Depending how much illegal power he's transmitting and the proximity to you, there is no filtering available that will keep the signal from feeding directly into your equipment and causing havoc.
If he's truly running illegal amplifiers those things are infamous for producing all kinds of spurious frequency signals across the entire radio spectrum. He's a prime example why Hams in general often get a bad rep.
You've got a real problem on your hands IMO. Good luck.
- GabeU7 years agoDistinguished Professor IV
Whoa! Did the spam filter catch Alan's post and delete it? It's was a great and informative post, and I learned something about the SSID Broadcast I didn't know. Hopefully the person who asked the question will have a copy of Alan's answer in his/her email.
- lm85427 years agoSophomore
Hey , thanks for your feedback. I assume since he mentioned cb's that he may only be a CB operator I truly don't understand the jargon. I will try to learn though. I don't wish any ill will towards the guy just want to watch netflix in peace. lol
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