Our power goes out here when a bird burps. If I don't lose power it will be a miracle. And to make matters worse, Sunday is going to be very warm, or at least for part of the day. I'...
Thanks! Luckily, other than a mess to clean up, and a couple of power flickers, we escaped relatively unscathed. :)
It's been a while since I've seen the ice do that. The seiches usually happen during the other three seasons, and you don't really see anything other than a substantial drop or rise in the water levels, but once in a while that'll happen, and it's pretty wild when it does. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, it's happening more often due to the lake not freezing over completely as often as it used to.
For those that aren't aware of this phenomenon, because Lake Erie is so shallow it's very susceptible to what's known as a seiche, which is like what happens to the water in your bathtub when you get in one end, where the water goes kind of gets pushed to the other end, then flows back the other way. During sustained high wind events, the lake's water level at Buffalo rises, while at the same time it lowers at Toledo. It eventually evens back out, just like the water in the tub, but when it's most pronounced it's usually like mentioned, as the wind is most often blowing from west to east, or some variation of such.
During the winter, if the lake is only partially frozen over and one of these high wind events hits, it can push ice toward the end of the lake and the entrance to the Niagara River. Because the ice boom across the entrance to the Niagara River broke from the building ice's pressure, a lot of that ice ended up going into the river. With the combination of the seiche and the wind driven ice, this is what started happening, primarily on the east side of the river, near its entrance.
You can actually see this type of thing growing in real time, and there are some videos from the area showing this. The same type of thing sometimes happens on the southern side of Lake Ontario, though that's driven by the wind only and not a seiche, as Ontario is too deep to have a seiche develop.
Fun stuff. It just shows you how much power the wind actually has. Anybody wanna build an igloo? :p
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Our power goes out here when a bird burps. If I don't lose power it will be a miracle.
And to make matters worse, Sunday is going to be very warm, or at least for part of the day. I'd better start making a few small buckets of ice now in order to keep my chest freezer cold enough that nothing thaws out by the time the cold front fully hits and it's cold enough outside to put things on the porch. It's packed pretty well, which will also help it stay cold. And it's presently set to the lowest setting, which is about - 5, so that will help, as well. There are a few somewhat local places where I could get some dry ice, too. I've just got to make it until about 9:00PM, at which time it will be cold enough outside to keep things frozen.
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Thanks! Luckily, other than a mess to clean up, and a couple of power flickers, we escaped relatively unscathed. :)
It's been a while since I've seen the ice do that. The seiches usually happen during the other three seasons, and you don't really see anything other than a substantial drop or rise in the water levels, but once in a while that'll happen, and it's pretty wild when it does. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, it's happening more often due to the lake not freezing over completely as often as it used to.
Thanks! Luckily, other than a mess to clean up, and a couple of power flickers, we escaped relatively unscathed. :)
It's been a while since I've seen the ice do that. The seiches usually happen during the other three seasons, and you don't really see anything other than a substantial drop or rise in the water levels, but once in a while that'll happen, and it's pretty wild when it does. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, it's happening more often due to the lake not freezing over completely as often as it used to.
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For those that aren't aware of this phenomenon, because Lake Erie is so shallow it's very susceptible to what's known as a seiche, which is like what happens to the water in your bathtub when you get in one end, where the water goes kind of gets pushed to the other end, then flows back the other way. During sustained high wind events, the lake's water level at Buffalo rises, while at the same time it lowers at Toledo. It eventually evens back out, just like the water in the tub, but when it's most pronounced it's usually like mentioned, as the wind is most often blowing from west to east, or some variation of such.
During the winter, if the lake is only partially frozen over and one of these high wind events hits, it can push ice toward the end of the lake and the entrance to the Niagara River. Because the ice boom across the entrance to the Niagara River broke from the building ice's pressure, a lot of that ice ended up going into the river. With the combination of the seiche and the wind driven ice, this is what started happening, primarily on the east side of the river, near its entrance.
You can actually see this type of thing growing in real time, and there are some videos from the area showing this. The same type of thing sometimes happens on the southern side of Lake Ontario, though that's driven by the wind only and not a seiche, as Ontario is too deep to have a seiche develop.
Fun stuff. It just shows you how much power the wind actually has. Anybody wanna build an igloo? :p
For those that aren't aware of this phenomenon, because Lake Erie is so shallow it's very susceptible to what's known as a seiche, which is like what happens to the water in your bathtub when you get in one end, where the water goes kind of gets pushed to the other end, then flows back the other way. During sustained high wind events, the lake's water level at Buffalo rises, while at the same time it lowers at Toledo. It eventually evens back out, just like the water in the tub, but when it's most pronounced it's usually like mentioned, as the wind is most often blowing from west to east, or some variation of such.
During the winter, if the lake is only partially frozen over and one of these high wind events hits, it can push ice toward the end of the lake and the entrance to the Niagara River. Because the ice boom across the entrance to the Niagara River broke from the building ice's pressure, a lot of that ice ended up going into the river. With the combination of the seiche and the wind driven ice, this is what started happening, primarily on the east side of the river, near its entrance.
You can actually see this type of thing growing in real time, and there are some videos from the area showing this. The same type of thing sometimes happens on the southern side of Lake Ontario, though that's driven by the wind only and not a seiche, as Ontario is too deep to have a seiche develop.
Fun stuff. It just shows you how much power the wind actually has. Anybody wanna build an igloo? :p
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