This is probebly crazy, but I'll ask anyway.
Is the Gen5 modem-wifi creating a hidden network? I've been noticing it every time that I turn on wifi on my Wondows 10 Surface Pro 3.
When I unplug the modem-wifi and use my ASUS router, it doesn't show up. It is only there when using Gen5 modem-wifi. It comes in super strong at same level as Gen5 wifi. My neighbor's router comes in at one bar.
Any ideas?
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Is the Gen5 modem-wifi creating a hidden network? I've been noticing it every time that I turn on wifi on my Wondows 10 Surface Pro 3.
When I unplug the modem-wifi and use my ASUS router, it doesn't show up. It is only there when using Gen5 modem-wifi. It comes in super strong at same level as Gen5 wifi. My neighbor's router comes in at one bar.
Any ideas?
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Who knows, maybe a big rock or tree is making the difference. But no, you are not crazy.
Something about your Gen 5 modem and neighbor like each other.
Again, these frequecies are very quirky when it comes to reception.
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Something about your Gen 5 modem and neighbor like each other.
Again, these frequecies are very quirky when it comes to reception.
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It's kind of like the USB port on the back of the HT1100... It's there for \"future use\", but, we have no idea when or if that future will ever come. :)
Yes the signal is coming from your HT2000w... You wont be able to connect to that signal, and the signal is disabled if you disable the Wifi on the modem.
It's kind of like the USB port on the back of the HT1100... It's there for \"future use\", but, we have no idea when or if that future will ever come. :)
C0RR0SIVE wrote:Yes the signal is coming from your HT2000w... You wont be able to connect to that signal, and the signal is disabled if you disable the Wifi on the modem.
It's kind of like the USB port on the back of the HT1100... It's there for \"future use\", but, we have no idea when or if that future will ever come. :)
Thank you CORROSIVE! I have my SSIDs broadcasting, so I knew it wasn't anything to do with that. The signal is so strong that I knew it wasn't a neighbor.
I read something about some providers creating a hidden network to speed up the wifi, or something like that.
Thanks again for solving my mystery hidden network!
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It's kind of like the USB port on the back of the HT1100... It's there for \"future use\", but, we have no idea when or if that future will ever come. :)
Thank you CORROSIVE! I have my SSIDs broadcasting, so I knew it wasn't anything to do with that. The signal is so strong that I knew it wasn't a neighbor.
I read something about some providers creating a hidden network to speed up the wifi, or something like that.
Thanks again for solving my mystery hidden network!
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If your primary 2.4GHz and 5GHz and/or associated Guest wifi channels are enabled without the SSID being broadcast it will be \"hidden\" - basically signals with blank names. You would only be able to use it if you knew the SSID. This is to prevent people from detecting, then also hacking into your wifi - they'd now need two pieces of information (SSID and password - if set) instead of one (just the password).
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If your primary 2.4GHz and 5GHz and/or associated Guest wifi channels are enabled without the SSID being broadcast it will be \"hidden\" - basically signals with blank names. You would only be able to use it if you knew the SSID. This is to prevent people from detecting, then also hacking into your wifi - they'd now need two pieces of information (SSID and password - if set) instead of one (just the password).
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You'll pardon my \"clueles banter\", but tone is as tone does.
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I do not believe that Hughesnet is being transparent. I do not buy that they can do what they want and we have no choice.
When members ask specifically about the \"Hidden Network\" no explaination is given.
The \"supposed experts\" on this forum also have no answers as to the \"hidden network\". They chose to attack members wanting to know what is going on. WHY?
I'll just leave it at that.....
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I do not believe that Hughesnet is being transparent. I do not buy that they can do what they want and we have no choice.
When members ask specifically about the \"Hidden Network\" no explaination is given.
The \"supposed experts\" on this forum also have no answers as to the \"hidden network\". They chose to attack members wanting to know what is going on. WHY?
I'll just leave it at that.....
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