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DaddyRabbit
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7 years ago
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HT2000 Block Individual Devices

TL;DR : Is there a way to block individual devices using the HT2000 Gen5?

I know you can’t reliably game using satellite, but my son’s PS4 is in constant update mode with his games and it literally chews through data in 2-3 days. He uses his cellphone for online gaming and browsing PSN, but it’s terrible for 1GB+ updates.

What I’d like to do is disable and enable his connection at will without having to change the WiFi password each time and without forcing his PS4 to “forget” the WiFi info and have to re-enter it every time he wants to update. I’d rather not have to buy another router (which I know can do this), but I will if it can’t be done directly from the HT2000.

Side note: you cannot set the PS4 on an update timer (like Windows) and even if you disable automatic updates on the PS4, it will update in the background when you start the game, so managing this from the PS4 side is a non-starter.

I know it’s a tall order, but I’m weighing my options before buying any more equipment.

Thanks!
  • MarkJFine's avatar
    MarkJFine
    7 years ago

    See, this is what I'm talking about. Sounds to me like that's not a simple 683mb movie. In fact if it were, you should have no problem streaming even in FAP.

     


    @@Kaiserfamily wrote:
    Yes congestion maybe a factor but when you are paying so much for so little shouldn’t that be factored in with service? Comcast and AT&T doesn’t suffer from this.

    What you're paying for is the sunk cost, technology, real estate, and overhead required to bring a 2-way satellite signal to your house. The costs are mind boggling. You really can't compare it to the cost involved in terrestrial (Comcast and AT&T) which is nothing more than a server and some cabling (or fiber) from 3-5 miles away, and not a whole lot of overhead at all - we're talking pennies on the dollar.

     

    Next, consider that satellite has a finite amount of end-user spot beams (~97 are used), with a finite amount of bandwidth per spot beam. You're sharing that beam with others over an area covering a few hundred miles in either direction, not just a handful of expandable servers for a single neighborhood.

     

    Each spot beam, is then merged with signals from other spot beams, and channelled through one of about 17 ground stations matrixed about the west coast, which are then connected to an upstream provider on the internet.

     

    The key here is 'finite' because you can't just call a tech, fly up to the satellite and add a new beam like you can with a terrestrial service.

     

    So what you do, whatever others are doing on your router, the same beam you're on, and even the ground station you share adversely affects the congestion that you see. I think we did the math on here once and came to the conclusion that the resource demands created by only 40 people on the same beam simultaneously watching an HD movie could feasibly shut the whole beam down.

     

    I'm not even including the impact that 500ms latency (satellite: ~72k miles vs. terrestrial 3-5 miles) has on trying to do resource intense activities such as streaming.

     

    You're right, Comcast and AT&T don't suffer from this, but they're not even close to being the same thing.

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  • GabeU's avatar
    GabeU
    Distinguished Professor IV

    Remy wrote:

    Sheribeth,

     

    Thank you for reaching out! It appears that this is your first post. Welcome to the Community! We'd love to help take a look into the service issues you've been experiencing. However, I was unable to locate your account through your Community profile. Please send us a private message at the link attached below with your account number or a phone number attached.

     

    https://community.hughesnet.com/t5/notes/composepage/note-to-user-i

     

    Thanks,

    Remy


    I think something happened to your link.

     

    https://community.hughesnet.com/t5/notes/composepage/note-to-user-id/102584

    • Hello,  I was supposed to have a tech come today between 11-2 and once again did not show up or call. This is the third time now,   Can you just send me a new modem and I can send the old one back? 

       

      Thank you 

  • Hi DaddyRabbit,

     

    Great question! I've seen some complaints pop up in Sony's forum about this and it is very unfortunate they haven't offered a solution. I may be able to offer a couple of solutions:

     

    First, you can try blocking your son's PS4 MAC address in the WAN Mac filtering table and using an ethernet cable to plug in the PS4 when he needs to use HughesNet. I can't confirm the ethernet side will work since I haven't tried this myself.

     

    The second may be your best option. I have a PS4 at home which I have not fiddled with as far as settings go, but my Xbox One has 2 separate MAC addresses - "LAN" and "Wireless". I poked around google a bit and saw this image for a PS4 which looks similar to the Xbox interface.

    Related image

     

    As you can see, there are two MAC addresses. You can try blocking only his Wi-Fi MAC address in the HughesNet modem and only use a LAN cable to connect to the HughesNet service when needed. Hope that helps!

     

    Amanda

  • Your best bet would be to setup the Guest Wifi network for the PS4, and enable/disable that network when you want to allow the Playstation 4 to have access to Hughesnet...  I would recomend the MAC filter, but what you're wanting would be more problematic when going that route.

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I know you can’t reliably game using satellite, but my son’s PS4 is in constant update mode with his games and it literally chews through data in 2-3 days. He uses his cellphone for online gaming and browsing PSN, but it’s terrible for 1GB+ updates.

What I’d like to do is disable and enable his connection at will without having to change the WiFi password each time and without forcing his PS4 to “forget” the WiFi info and have to re-enter it every time he wants to update. I’d rather not have to buy another router (which I know can do this), but I will if it can’t be done directly from the HT2000.

Side note: you cannot set the PS4 on an update timer (like Windows) and even if you disable automatic updates on the PS4, it will update in the background when you start the game, so managing this from the PS4 side is a non-starter.

I know it’s a tall order, but I’m weighing my options before buying any more equipment.

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I know you can’t reliably game using satellite, but my son’s PS4 is in constant update mode with his games and it literally chews through data in 2-3 days. He uses his cellphone for online gaming and browsing PSN, but it’s terrible for 1GB+ updates.

What I’d like to do is disable and enable his connection at will without having to change the WiFi password each time and without forcing his PS4 to “forget” the WiFi info and have to re-enter it every time he wants to update. I’d rather not have to buy another router (which I know can do this), but I will if it can’t be done directly from the HT2000.

Side note: you cannot set the PS4 on an update timer (like Windows) and even if you disable automatic updates on the PS4, it will update in the background when you start the game, so managing this from the PS4 side is a non-starter.

I know it’s a tall order, but I’m weighing my options before buying any more equipment.

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Hi DaddyRabbit,

 

Great question! I've seen some complaints pop up in Sony's forum about this and it is very unfortunate they haven't offered a solution. I may be able to offer a couple of solutions:

 

First, you can try blocking your son's PS4 MAC address in the WAN Mac filtering table and using an ethernet cable to plug in the PS4 when he needs to use HughesNet. I can't confirm the ethernet side will work since I haven't tried this myself.

 

The second may be your best option. I have a PS4 at home which I have not fiddled with as far as settings go, but my Xbox One has 2 separate MAC addresses - \"LAN\" and \"Wireless\". I poked around google a bit and saw this image for a PS4 which looks similar to the Xbox interface.

\"Related

 

As you can see, there are two MAC addresses. You can try blocking only his Wi-Fi MAC address in the HughesNet modem and only use a LAN cable to connect to the HughesNet service when needed. Hope that helps!

 

Amanda

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Hi DaddyRabbit,

 

Great question! I've seen some complaints pop up in Sony's forum about this and it is very unfortunate they haven't offered a solution. I may be able to offer a couple of solutions:

 

First, you can try blocking your son's PS4 MAC address in the WAN Mac filtering table and using an ethernet cable to plug in the PS4 when he needs to use HughesNet. I can't confirm the ethernet side will work since I haven't tried this myself.

 

The second may be your best option. I have a PS4 at home which I have not fiddled with as far as settings go, but my Xbox One has 2 separate MAC addresses - \"LAN\" and \"Wireless\". I poked around google a bit and saw this image for a PS4 which looks similar to the Xbox interface.

\"Related

 

As you can see, there are two MAC addresses. You can try blocking only his Wi-Fi MAC address in the HughesNet modem and only use a LAN cable to connect to the HughesNet service when needed. Hope that helps!

 

Amanda

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Your best bet would be to setup the Guest Wifi network for the PS4, and enable/disable that network when you want to allow the Playstation 4 to have access to Hughesnet...  I would recomend the MAC filter, but what you're wanting would be more problematic when going that route.

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Your best bet would be to setup the Guest Wifi network for the PS4, and enable/disable that network when you want to allow the Playstation 4 to have access to Hughesnet...  I would recomend the MAC filter, but what you're wanting would be more problematic when going that route.

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