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BlueIris and HughesNet Gen5

New HughesNet user and need some direction...I use BlueIris (BI) software to remotely monitor security cameras off site periodically...BI needs a WAN network IP address and a :8081 added to get out (or in). When I run an IP search for the network I only get a MAC address...no IP...

 

Has anyone had experiance with something like this and a solution? All radios are turned off, both 2 and 5 KH and the Gen5 is essentially acting like a modem. I just really need a WAN IP (and not a MAC address) and :8081 in the IP address for BI to work remote.

 

Thanks All!!

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  • You won't be able to remotely access your BlueIris software on the WAN on Hughesnet as you are behind Carrier Grade Nat (CGN). Hughesnet doesn't support running any form of servers (in this case, BlueIris) on residential connections for remote accessibility.

    If you need remote security camera monitoring, you will need to use something like a NEST cam where the camera uploads to a central server that you are able to access.

    • BirdDog's avatar
      BirdDog
      Assistant Professor

      C0RR0SIVE has it right about Nest and being cloud based server which works great for my cameras and thermostat.

       

      I did find this good info on making things work with NAT but requires a DD-WRT router and port forwarding (first answer). The HughesNet router/modem is not DD-WRT and from what I know the Hughes service does not support port forwarding either. So still a no go in the end.

       

      https://superuser.com/questions/740330/how-to-connect-via-dd-wrt-to-a-device-known-by-its-mac-address

      • plongson's avatar
        plongson
        Freshman

        Ughhh, what a freak'n bummer...I must's asked the yahoo at Dish selling the SAT service a dozen times if the Gen5 supported security software systems like BI. Should have know, but I'm not too suprized...kind'a like asking a car salesman about something technical.

        The support guy in the Phillipines said he could get the advanced help group to add a port forward. I wonder if I wonder if using the IP of BI and have HughesNet give me a port forward on the Gen5, then assign it to BI if that might work??

         

        Or am I dreaming?? LOL

         

        THANKS GUYS!!  Paul

    • pparker900's avatar
      pparker900
      New Poster

      Hi Corrosive - your explanation is spot on, but as a customer, not acceptable.  I *need* to have products like BlueIris work.  Products that push to the cloud have their own special issues (like Nest and Amcrest).

       

      I guess I'm left with the question - What can H/N do to address this issue?  Perhaps provide fixed IP addresses?

       

      Thoughts?

       

      Regards, Pat

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New HughesNet user and need some direction...I use BlueIris (BI) software to remotely monitor security cameras off site periodically...BI needs a WAN network IP address and a :8081 added to get out (or in). When I run an IP search for the network I only get a MAC address...no IP...

 

Has anyone had experiance with something like this and a solution? All radios are turned off, both 2 and 5 KH and the Gen5 is essentially acting like a modem. I just really need a WAN IP (and not a MAC address) and :8081 in the IP address for BI to work remote.

 

Thanks All!!

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New HughesNet user and need some direction...I use BlueIris (BI) software to remotely monitor security cameras off site periodically...BI needs a WAN network IP address and a :8081 added to get out (or in). When I run an IP search for the network I only get a MAC address...no IP...

 

Has anyone had experiance with something like this and a solution? All radios are turned off, both 2 and 5 KH and the Gen5 is essentially acting like a modem. I just really need a WAN IP (and not a MAC address) and :8081 in the IP address for BI to work remote.

 

Thanks All!!

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You won't be able to remotely access your BlueIris software on the WAN on Hughesnet as you are behind Carrier Grade Nat (CGN). Hughesnet doesn't support running any form of servers (in this case, BlueIris) on residential connections for remote accessibility.

If you need remote security camera monitoring, you will need to use something like a NEST cam where the camera uploads to a central server that you are able to access.

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You won't be able to remotely access your BlueIris software on the WAN on Hughesnet as you are behind Carrier Grade Nat (CGN). Hughesnet doesn't support running any form of servers (in this case, BlueIris) on residential connections for remote accessibility.

If you need remote security camera monitoring, you will need to use something like a NEST cam where the camera uploads to a central server that you are able to access.

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C0RR0SIVE has it right about Nest and being cloud based server which works great for my cameras and thermostat.

 

I did find this good info on making things work with NAT but requires a DD-WRT router and port forwarding (first answer). The HughesNet router/modem is not DD-WRT and from what I know the Hughes service does not support port forwarding either. So still a no go in the end.

 

https://superuser.com/questions/740330/how-to-connect-via-dd-wrt-to-a-device-known-by-its-mac-address

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 has it right about Nest and being cloud based server which works great for my cameras and thermostat.

 

I did find this good info on making things work with NAT but requires a DD-WRT router and port forwarding (first answer). The HughesNet router/modem is not DD-WRT and from what I know the Hughes service does not support port forwarding either. So still a no go in the end.

 

https://superuser.com/questions/740330/how-to-connect-via-dd-wrt-to-a-device-known-by-its-mac-address

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Ughhh, what a freak'n bummer...I must's asked the yahoo at Dish selling the SAT service a dozen times if the Gen5 supported security software systems like BI. Should have know, but I'm not too suprized...kind'a like asking a car salesman about something technical.

The support guy in the Phillipines said he could get the advanced help group to add a port forward. I wonder if I wonder if using the IP of BI and have HughesNet give me a port forward on the Gen5, then assign it to BI if that might work??

 

Or am I dreaming?? LOL

 

THANKS GUYS!!  Paul

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Ughhh, what a freak'n bummer...I must's asked the yahoo at Dish selling the SAT service a dozen times if the Gen5 supported security software systems like BI. Should have know, but I'm not too suprized...kind'a like asking a car salesman about something technical.

The support guy in the Phillipines said he could get the advanced help group to add a port forward. I wonder if I wonder if using the IP of BI and have HughesNet give me a port forward on the Gen5, then assign it to BI if that might work??

 

Or am I dreaming?? LOL

 

THANKS GUYS!!  Paul

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Hi Corrosive - your explanation is spot on, but as a customer, not acceptable.  I *need* to have products like BlueIris work.  Products that push to the cloud have their own special issues (like Nest and Amcrest).

 

I guess I'm left with the question - What can H/N do to address this issue?  Perhaps provide fixed IP addresses?

 

Thoughts?

 

Regards, Pat

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Hi Corrosive - your explanation is spot on, but as a customer, not acceptable.  I *need* to have products like BlueIris work.  Products that push to the cloud have their own special issues (like Nest and Amcrest).

 

I guess I'm left with the question - What can H/N do to address this issue?  Perhaps provide fixed IP addresses?

 

Thoughts?

 

Regards, Pat

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