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Gen5: adding access points

Gen5 being installed tomorrow at our church.  Business account.  We will need to add 3 access points to cover the church properly.  Our plan is to add Unifi access points (from Ubiquiti).  This requi...
  • C0RR0SIVE's avatar
    8 years ago

    Remote features wont be possible unless accessed via IPv6...  As you said, these HT2000w units can't be put into a bridged mode, so chances are the UniFi Cloud Key will be useless for remote administration after you add on the fact you are behind CGN...

    I have yet to run into a scenario where Ubiquiti AP's require a Unifi Gateway or Edge Router unless you are attempting to make remote management of the equipment and network easier, which again, is useless thanks to CGN, unless you can figure out something with IPv6...

    pswired and tracerrx have been working together on their IPv6 conundrum together, the thread they are discussing remote IPv6 address in could provide some good insight in that area... https://community.hughesnet.com/t5/Tech-Support/HT2000W-IPv6-inbound-services/m-p/83342#M58814

     

    To be fairly honest, I would just go HT2000w > Switch > AP's, disable the HT2000w wifi, and create my own wifi network.  Never really touched their switches or anything else as the features are mostly useless IMO.

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adding access points","id":"message:84098","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":14,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:46984"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:ThirdParty"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:84098"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:84098"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":" Gen5 being installed tomorrow at our church.  Business account.  We will need to add 3 access points to cover the church properly.  Our plan is to add Unifi access points (from Ubiquiti).  This requi...","body@stringLength":"907","rawBody":"

Gen5 being installed tomorrow at our church.  Business account.  We will need to add 3 access points to cover the church properly.  Our plan is to add Unifi access points (from Ubiquiti).  This requires a Unifi security gateway (or Edge router) to be connected to the HT2000 router/modem.  My plan was to turn off the wifi on the HT2000 and simply connect the Unifi gateway to one of the LAN ports.  But then I read that you must put the first router in bridge mode....but we cannot do that with HT2000.  Here was my plan:

 

HT2000 > Unifi Security Gateway (USG) > Unifi Switch > Unifi access points controlled by a cloud key controller

 

Will the Unifi access point plan described above still work without bridge mode on the HT2000?  If not, what is the best way to add access points to a Hughesnet Gen5 system?

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Remote features wont be possible unless accessed via IPv6...  As you said, these HT2000w units can't be put into a bridged mode, so chances are the UniFi Cloud Key will be useless for remote administration after you add on the fact you are behind CGN...

I have yet to run into a scenario where Ubiquiti AP's require a Unifi Gateway or Edge Router unless you are attempting to make remote management of the equipment and network easier, which again, is useless thanks to CGN, unless you can figure out something with IPv6...

pswired and tracerrx have been working together on their IPv6 conundrum together, the thread they are discussing remote IPv6 address in could provide some good insight in that area... https://community.hughesnet.com/t5/Tech-Support/HT2000W-IPv6-inbound-services/m-p/83342#M58814

 

To be fairly honest, I would just go HT2000w > Switch > AP's, disable the HT2000w wifi, and create my own wifi network.  Never really touched their switches or anything else as the features are mostly useless IMO.

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Based on this information, this is my plan:

 

HT2000w (wifi off) > Unifi switch (US-8-150w) > Unifi UAP AC Pro x 3

 

I guess I would need to first provision the three AP's using Unifi's controller software.  Right?  And could I still set up a guest SSID (recognizing that captive portal would not be an option)?

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Based on this information, this is my plan:

 

HT2000w (wifi off) > Unifi switch (US-8-150w) > Unifi UAP AC Pro x 3

 

I guess I would need to first provision the three AP's using Unifi's controller software.  Right?  And could I still set up a guest SSID (recognizing that captive portal would not be an option)?

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That, I am unsure...  You might get the most support from the Ubiquity Support Forum in regards to their products and captive portal among other things.

UBNT Community Support

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That, I am unsure...  You might get the most support from the Ubiquity Support Forum in regards to their products and captive portal among other things.

UBNT Community Support

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No problem.  What is the PFSense Firewall you have in your config?  Is this a piece of hardware or software running a PC?

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No problem.  What is the PFSense Firewall you have in your config?  Is this a piece of hardware or software running a PC?

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It's FreeBSD running some software on another PC to act as a network firewall and router...
https://www.pfsense.org/

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It's FreeBSD running some software on another PC to act as a network firewall and router...
https://www.pfsense.org/

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I'm starting to understand this.  Can you provide a bit more info on your FreeBSD settings with HW2000?  

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...there are WAY too many settings to make it feasible to go over, a lot are tailored to my exact network setup as well.

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No problem, I'll figure it out.  Curious though, doesn't the HT2000 have a firewall built into it?   Are you using FreeBSD because it offers more flexibilty and customization.....or is there something else I'm missing?  Basically what I'm asking is in the set-up I described above with 3 access points, is it advisable to install a seperate firewall/router after the HT2000 or can one typically rely on the HT2000 to do this?  

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You can rely on just the HT2000w if you wanted to, it does have a firewall built in.

I am using PFSense mostly for DNSBL, and Content Filtering on my network.

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