Is unlimited data in Hughesnet future?
Just curious if Hughesnet will ever get unlimited data. Excede has come into my area an offers it. Speeds up to 25mbps, unlimited data for $150 per month. $100 for the first 3 months. It's expensive,...
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But again exede starts throttling at 150gb. So why not do that. Charge $200 a month for 150gb. Don’t call it unlimited even though that’s what exede calls it. So why not do that? Basically 150gb and maybe have unlimited off peak hour from 2am-8am. Why not do that?
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But again exede starts throttling at 150gb. So why not do that. Charge $200 a month for 150gb. Don’t call it unlimited even though that’s what exede calls it. So why not do that? Basically 150gb and maybe have unlimited off peak hour from 2am-8am. Why not do that?
Why do you keep making the assumption that Hughesnet's system, and throughput, is identical to Exede's, or even a number of customers than can justify offering such? Just because one sat internet company offers something doesn't mean it's main competition can, nor wants to, offer the same, with the latter being customer dependant. Hughes has a much larger number of customers than Exede does. To stick with your choice of auto analogies, you can fit six average people in the average sedan. It becomes much more difficult when you try to put four average people, plus two 400lb people, or even three average and three 400lb people, in that same sedan, as not only is there not going to be any room for anyone to move (throughput), the car is going to have more difficulty moving up hills and such at speed because of the extra weight (capacity).
Sure, they could offer it, then have thousands of people sign up for it over the next few months, then have the system slow to such a crawl due to people continually streaming with all of that data that people begin having issues simply downloading their email. What then?
HughesNet offers what the system can handle within reason. Start offering what it can't support, then not only do all customers suffer, but so does the company. THAT'S Economics 101. You don't offer what you can't provide, nor offer what will cause everyone on the system to suffer.
Again, it all comes down to what the system can handle, and they aren't going to offer what it can't support.
- See look at you being mean again isn’t that against community standards to be bullying on a forum. You guys act like you’re from the 90s of high speed internet and have dumb dialup. Of course if I had dialup I would use satellite but IF a company is advertising “HIGH SPEED” internet they need to be able to offer plans in such a way that can cover folks. I find it VERY silly you guys act like well it’s satellite internet it must be not use the bandwidth. You probably don’t understand what they are doing with wireless currently and being able to force quite a bit through. In fact if you capped the bandwidth to 10mbps you can still get away with 4K video and doing other things while adding more space to your pipe. You guys know this right? You know how budget the size of your pipeline? Other companies do it.
My point is Hughes knows how to they just don’t want to cause they can justify charging people whatever because they had the monopoly on the market. Now that exede is in the space they need us to push them to think better and reorganize things so that people can get the full benefit of their package. I don’t care that I can’t get 25mbps for 50gb. I’d rather have 150gb at 10mbps. GET IT. Now stop being bully on the forum. I mean you don’t like language well I don’t like online bullies. And you were talking about me watching ultra HD and using 15gb. Smh REMEMBER I get tagged in your attempt to make fun of me. - If you offer high speed internet you expect to be able to cover it. If directv can give you 4K and 3D channels constantly then Hughes can cover high speed internet they choose not to because they think it’s all about speed. The speed isn’t the issue it’s the pipe. You can could throttle back and allow only 10mbps and allow 150gb usage and you’d accomplish the same as 50gb at 25mbps. It’s all about their algorithm in how the manage the usage of their pipe if they are at all. Also you can’t online game with HughesNet or any satellite company Service I’m suspect because of the delay. Watching UltraHD is possible just like how I watch 4K on my Directv hmm smh you guys need to educate yourselves before shaking your head at people not realizing the tech is able to handle this kind of stuff.
- It’s fascinating that people think Hughes doesn’t have the capability to offer high speed internet and allow up to 150gb for a specific amount. High speed doesn’t have to be at 25 Mbps. I’d much rather have 150gb at 10mbps then 50gb at 25mbps lol. But hey you guys assume it’s not possible. And throttling happens on Hughes during peak times as well or have you not had that issue yet?
I know Hughes has the capacity to offer High Speed Internet. I've seen them do it. I've downloaded games over 6GB in under 20 minutes flat. Quite frankly that's exactly what I need the internet for, so it works for me.
The part you don't seem to understand is when 1k+ people are trying to stream SD (or more) simultaneously for hours on end on any particular beam, it's not called intentional throttling, it's called congestion and will slow down any system. Encouraging larger plan sizes just encourages more congestion and worse service for everyone.
So, if you think Excede isn't just fishing for a quick, larger market share that's eventually going to blow up in their face, you're mistaken. But, good luck with that.
Edit: And if you think people streaming aren't the issue, take a look in the Tech section, where nearly every slowness complaint starts with "I can't even stream...", and most aren't even aware of the resolution they're trying to stream at.
- I give up. If you guys don’t want to demand better service or a better way to provide service then whatever. People blissfully happy with limits don’t try to rock the boat. There’s a better way and surprise exede is doing it. Too bad you guys don’t want the same from Hughes. Oh well. I’m sure exede has issues during peak hours BUT from friends who I actually physically know they say exede is a great unlimited service. But whatever. They had a monopoly and now they don’t. Let’s hope they make Service better for us.
It's comical how, after he learns more about the system he's been claiming to know so much about, the complaint then shifts to wanting them to offer 150GB at "10Mbps".
"I try and binge them and then move on but if they are in 4K I want to get that experience without worrying about my data going away." Good luck doing that with 10Mbps you NOW claim they should be able to provide. SMH.
"If directv can give you 4K and 3D channels constantly then Hughes can cover high speed internet they choose not to because they think it’s all about speed." No offense, Saxgod, but with you making that comparison I question your statement, "I’m an IT Audit consultant so I get how networks work.", as by comparing the abilities of DirecTV and it's one way system to Hughes' two way system it's evident you really don't get how networks work. SMH.
BTW, Saxgod, what's the throughput of Exede's system and it's number of subscribers? You keep making direct comparisons with HughesNet. What's the throuput of Exede, and it's number of subscribers? Oh, and just for fun, what's the upload limit of DirecTV, since you're comparing HughesNet to them, too. Oh, that's right, they don't have upload, and the way they download content to their receivers is completely different than streaming on an ISP, but you know that, because you know networks, right?
Viasat has the following...
Wildblue-1
Viasat-1
Viasat-2 (soon)
Viasat-3 (2019 if they are **bleep** lucky and it doesn't sit delayed for over a year)
Hughesnet has the following...
A few leases on random satellites for HN7000, they used AMC-9, Satmex5, Horizons1, not sure if those are all still in use. (yes, those still exist)
Spaceway3
Jupiter-1 (Echostar-17)
Jupiter-2 (Echostar-19)
Jupiter-3 (Echostar-24/21?, 2021 if they are lucky and it doesn't get delayed)
Also, Viasat-2 is NOT in use yet, it's still in testing, that's not why they can offer higher speeds currently, what they have done is hard-throttled video to a certain speed/resolution depending on your service plan, thus freeing up much needed bandwidth to allow for potentially higher caps.
Also, no one is stopping you from canceling your consumer account and signing up for the $500, 250GB Business package, it's rather nice aside from the cost. Don't recomend customers doing that though, as the business plans are much more costly per GB, plus the moment you are an SME customer, you lose the ability to get support via the Community. I would say that less than 1/10th of the SME customers are sitting on the top tier plan, as most use the satellite link as a pure backup link in the event someone cuts the fiber at a place. I would wager most SME customers are sitting on the Business 75, or Business 150 plan./shrugs/
Back to the topic, wont happen, not for some time. It would be stupid to increase data allowances when the satellite can't keep up with demand as is.
