ContributionsMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsMassive data leak I haven't posted here in awhile because usage has been manageable over the last year or so. We've been able to live with the 30/50 plan once we developed a routine. We wouldn't run out of data unless we had visitors for a few days that would use more data. However last fall (around Sept) we noticed a larger data usage and we would regularly run out of data 5 days before the reset. I made screen shots of data usage daily, turned off all computers, TV connected to internet when they were not being used trying to isolate a problem. Didn't find anything that jumped out. We decided to upgrade the data plan to 50/50. Consideration was given to getting an unlimited data plan with verizon for the cell phones but that was more expensive for two phones than upgrading Hughes 50/50 plan. So, long story short. We burned through 100GB of data in 17 days. So now I'm back to taking screen shots (I need to wait for the data cap to reset) and trying to isolate the problem again. I'll try using the usage meter again. It won't run on either my Mac or PC. I'll try some of the suggestions for fixing that problem that I've read in the community forum. SolvedRe: Upgrade to Gen5, can you stream Netflix? We are also in a rural area. Centurylink DSL is available though but only 1.75 down. Netflix is one of the most reliable streamers for us. However we don't stream anything after 8a. All streaming is done between 2a and 8a. Not the most convenient but any steaming done as you approach prime time is basically unwatchable. Some thoughts after 3 months usage Cut the cord with Centurylink DSL and Directv in September, and also cancelled and line phone service. Some notes: After the initial month of usage and downloading it didn't take long to hit the FAP in that 2nd month. Went through the trial periods of several plans-Hulu, Sling, HBO Now, Playstation Vue, and Directv Now trying to settle on the best streaming plans. Already subscribed to Amazon Prime and Netflix. Initially settled on Playstation Vue not so much for the range of networks provided but because they provided the best streaming signal with minimal buffering, 'DVR' capability, and user interface through my Roku boxes. Currently using Directv Now and anticipating some improvements ('DVR') when they roll the new app out in 2018. Some of the streaming services do things with the signal. As an example you can watch the Weather Nation Channel pretty much anytime of the day and it is a pretty sharp signal. Watching that same channel through a streaming provider and it is almost unwatchable-choppy, buffering, bad audio. My plan is the 30gb/month w/50GB bonus. Initially I had the 20 GB plan but soon realized that with two active users in the house we would blow by that in 20 days. Just daily usage without streaming videos runs roughly 1 GB a day. That leaves the 50 GB for video streaming, OS upgrades, and other software upgrades. Streaming video at some medium quality as a rule-of-thumb burns about 1GB/hour. So in general we only download one show a day. Netflix and Amazon are ad free but most of the other streaming packages include ads. When possible it is worth paying the extra (Hulu Plus) for ad free streaming so you don't pay for the bandwidth hit. There is not sufficient bandwidth to stream any video or on demand video in the evening. Shows are choppy, too much buffereing and basically impossible to watch. Anywhere between 6p and midnight is a bust. End up watching a lot of shows in the morning, 4-8a. Luckily the pets oblige by getting everyone up. I thought I had the FAP problem solved when I was hit with it a second time. I did not properly exit a streaming app on the Roku box and the streaming provider was still streaming in autoplay mode. This happened two nights and I burned about 25GB. So, turn off the autoplay mode, exit the apps properly (don't just turn off the tv), and check your data usage regularily. Initially I was going to insert another router in the stream and monitor the usage of each device but decided not to. I've already got another router in the mix running a wifi mesh network. Where some of the streaming packages are inconsistent is with closed captions. Amazon, Netflix, Hulu allow you to set those parameters up front so all shows stream with closed captions. Others like Directv Now and USA Network have to be set at the beginning of each show. Local channels are OTA and captured with a Tablo receiver and hard disk. The DVR commands work pretty well and allow us to program and save local channel shows just like we could with Directv satellite. Actually the video quality is better. Also the data usage monitor doesn't play well on my mac or pc. Java script errors was the last message I got. Had to remove them. Re: Upgrade to Gen5, can you stream Netflix? Hit FAP this morning with Gen 5. 15 days until 20 GB data reset. Downloading netflix/hulu in 2am-8am window but that was zeroed out also. Streaming anything is pretty iffy.