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Re: Unruly techies
Short story is, there is some underlying notion that I am some guy that rubbed the community the wrong way at some point I provided my experience with HN support which was contrary to what was being shared within the community. I shared my education and work experience so as to assist techs and posters by knowing my knowledge base (you know, if I say I’m a physicist, RF engineer, and network engineer techs aren’t going to ask if I know how to reboot, proper hard restart protocol, cabling issues, etc) but it was taken as a holier than thou claim because they instantly believed me to be someone else. The banter started, we both perpetuated and neither one of us relented. We were both responsible for increasingly tense communications. It’s over now though, at least this girl hopes so!6.1KViews0likes4CommentsRe: Warning, don't fry your modem.
I also missed the portion where you discuss RJ and coax connectors and waterproofing along with twisted pairs. A DB9 is much easier to waterproof than is an RJ45, and cheaper yet. As far as twisted pairs, yeah so “training them” to use twisted pair is kind of a silly statement. Just saying5.2KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Warning, don't fry your modem.
Chances are the LNBF is amplifying and sending L band. Impedance mismatch on L band is still a big big deal, as is signal loss through the cable. Point being, your RG6 from your dish to your modem is not carrying simply a TX/RX, so dielectric grease impacting impedence (especially with 75ohm systems) and signal loss transmit power gain will (in most cases) severely degrade a system design to transmit at 25/3 Thanks for your research though. Always looking for new info in my world!5.2KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Warning, don't fry your modem.
You make one interesting yet terrible point pswired If I am talking about impedance matching, do you not think I would use 75 ohm LMR400? I mean justifiable concern but I can assure you I will impedence match. Keep in mind one other thing, seriously now...signal strength is measured at the dish itself sure. The problem with your concern is that you believe there is no chance for signal loss or transmit power gain between the modem and the dish, and for this you are sadly mistaken but understandably so. If there was not need for RF cable between the dish and the modem, it would be on much cheaper and extremely faster 1000/100/10 cat6e with excellent shielding metal backshells, and shields connected to the backshells, with dielectric running through the cable. My point is that you could have all of the bells and whistles in a cat 6 cable and still be cheaper than solid copper core RF. So...what’s the deal then? Why (according to you) would you use RF cable when there is no RF traveling between the LNBF and the modem?5.2KViews0likes4CommentsRe: Unruly techies
gaines_wright wrote: Back in the dial up a BBS with a 1200 baud modem days, I hung out on a couple of boards: The international 'C' Programing Echo ( Those guys taught me a lot! ), and another that I can't recall anything about, except that the handle of one of the posters was Cthulu, and that many posters often ended their posts with some sort of quote. Neither BBS would put up with the flames or disrespect to another poster, that I sometimes I see here. A first offense would get you a nasty note from the moderator. Three times and you were barred from posting. People that were barred sometimes tried to sneak back in under a different handle. This never worked, flamers got to flame. The moderator was elected every year and they almost never ran for two consecutive terms. I called this "moderator burn out". After all, who would want to ride herd over a bunch of unruly techies, 24/7, for more than one year? This weekend seemed especially unruly to me. IMO everybody should just lighten up! Especially you members of the Kudo Klub Klique. :>)> IMAGINATION, n. A warehouse of facts, with poet and liar in joint ownership. The Devils Dictionary I completely agree. There comes a time and place for offering help and experience and there comes a time and a place for offering correction. There is never a place for using argumentum ad verecundiam however it was ill-perceived that I was trying to do so [instead of understanding that the offering of ones education and job title help provide a different layer of assistance(which is why companies like HN open up a ticket that says "well-educated customer"...ergo it gives them a different basis of knowledge when offering their assistance)]. I wasn't, however, the only one using such logical fallacies. Going on the attack, and continuing banter from both sides is quite petty, especially in this weekend's scenario(s) I apologize to the majority for my engaging of the enemy in battle.6.1KViews0likes0CommentsRe: HughesNet Reps - Speed Testing Official Word
Only following for S&G however what is the kudos penalty for leading the witness? Tweeeeeet! Flag for moderator interference. You should have just asked your question, without stating your own preverence. Fifteen kudo penalty, replay down. The five kudo penalty for not asking Damien is declined. :>)>9.8KViews0likes4CommentsRe: Warning, don't fry your modem.
GabeU wrote: gaines_wright wrote: GabeU wrote: I have no idea, but what I, HughesNet, and the installers care about is a proper installation, which requires the proper application of dielectric grease and weathersealing of all outdoor connectors. LOL "I, HughesNet"? Sort of like "I, Robot"? :>)> In all the hubub I missed your reply. But, yeah, HughesNet became sentient. Didn't you get the memo? :p :p :p Perhaps not quite sentient, but I do see my fair share of "artificial" intelligence looming8.7KViews0likes1CommentRe: Warning, don't fry your modem.
Fiber and 1000Gb is definitely the way of the future. RF will always have its place, but I would rather see a company like this use quadrax or even pure silver twinax and start utilizing some aerospace tech instead of staying with the antiquated tech they still stick to because it has worked for so long. I understand the inherent costs, but if you can provide speeds faster than the competitors simply by using different cabling...dudes, why aren't you doing it?8.8KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Warning, don't fry your modem.
I don't remember using any sort of grease on the connectors. There is still a going trend to use dielectric grease in outdoor applications of F-type connectors, and for whatever reason some companies insist on it being appropriate. When you run 100 ft of RG6 with a dielectric in the connector on the main connection, and all four connections in the loop, and don't expect significant loss...you are being naive at best. Companies like HughesNet, Viasat/Exede, etc should use LMR400 as a baseline, with N-type connectors, and certainly no dielectric. Techs often overlook (or don't understand) how a dielectric grease will impact impedence in the connector. We rely on internal dielectrics in the cables to maintain a matched impedence and minimize signal loss and transmit power gain...yet we make it common place to impact impedences and increase the loss/gain while using a (sure its solid copper core) cable that has its own inherent signal loss issues regardless of impedence matching. It is truly a shameful practice in the RF world. If HN can't pinpoint problems with my system, I will be building an LMR400 cable from the dish to the modem, removing dielectrics, and changing all connectors to N-type and see what happens. Guarantee my speed will increase and transmit power will decrease. There are a lot of factors at play that should be customizable in these systems, but alas it is a cookie cutter product that is meant to work for Joe in the inner city with a 20 ft cable run, and Susie in the farmland with a 100 ft run. Not to mention HN installers do not care about both horizontal and vertical distances between the modem and the dish. Feedback, resonance, and crosstalk is a thing.8.8KViews0likes9Comments