Satellite capacity, video streaming and other meanderings
OK, did some simple math here, please correct me if I made any errors. 1. Echostar 19 has been advertised as having "up to" 220 Gbps throughput: http://spacenews.com/atlas-5-launches-echostar-19/...
I'm fine with 10 mbps speed, anything above that is gravy to me. Maybe because I have never had cable internet. Went from dial-up to satellite, thought I was in heaven. Admit downloading a file at 20-30 mbps is nice but not that big of a deal. I do get a lot of 20-30 mbps speed, especially early morning.
As far as page loading, I've been on high latency satellite for so long I'm used to it and don't expect anything else. I do notice much quicker page loads the few times I use my cell hot spot but truthfully not that big of a deal to me. So old I remember text painting a line at a time on a monochrome green screen over dialup. Took several seconds for a single line.
This here satellite stuff is dang sure awsome if'in ya ask me! :smileyhappy:
I'd actually be pretty good with 10Mbps, as well. Other than large file downloads taking a bit longer, nothing I do would be impacted in any way with a speed of 10Mbps. With most web pages, whether I get 47Mbps or 5Mbps, I don't see much difference.
I remember when I first ordered Gen4 I was thinking that I'd be very happy to get 60% of my up to (10Mbps or 15Mbps (can't remember for sure)) speed, and when my first test gave me 20Mbps I was floored. Nah, something's wrong, it can't be that high. I then got the same result, over and over. I was VERY happy. LOL. Then it kicked up to 30Mbps about six months later. Even better! Too bad it didn't make those darn Windows updates any faster. They were SOOOOO slow. Gen5 took care of that problem.
As you know, you're not the only one that feels that way. For what I use it for Windows 10 is fine, though I do have W8.1 on my notebook becuase it's just too "weak" to run well with Windows 10.
And I just recently discovered an easy way to stop the auto updates in Windows 10 (though you have to have Pro or better) and make it like the Windows updates in my notebook (notify, but don't download until I say so), so that's not an issue anymore. Now if they'd just stop that "telemetry." Ugh.
"I remember when I first ordered Gen4 I was thinking that I'd be very happy to get 60% of my up to (10Mbps or 15Mbps (can't remember for sure)) speed, and when my first test gave me 20Mbps I was floored. Nah, something's wrong, it can't be that high. I then got the same result, over and over. I was VERY happy. LOL. Then it kicked up to 30Mbps about six months later. "
The satellite really likes you, Gabe. I've never experienced consistent speeds, and of late they've been very slow, sometimes so slow they've affected browsing. It'll get better, though, I'm sure of it.
The satellite really likes you, Gabe. I've never experienced consistent speeds, and of late they've been very slow, sometimes so slow they've affected browsing. It'll get better, though, I'm sure of it.
Well, it's not liking me as much lately. As of the last month or so my evening speeds have been dropping considerably, and though my experience isn't as bad as yours, when you're used to it working well, and the speed dropping only somewhat during the peak usage periods, the speed dropping into the low to mid single digits, or lower, is quite noticeable. Again, most things I use it for still work just fine, but I have noticed as of the last few nights that even Youtube vids are starting to have some hiccups, even when my speeds are in the teens.
I think that, maybe, the Hughes' engineers are just trying to even the system out to be able to take care of those badly affected beams I know that something changed, as when my speeds dropped during the peak times about a month ago, it was like a switch. One day there was the normal difference, and the next....BAM! Over the months it had gone from practically no difference to it gradually dropping into the 30s, then 20s, then even the teens, but this drop was practically instant. Again, I'm still not that affected when doing most of the things I normally do, but it was interesting, nonetheless.
Peak usage three months ago...
Two months ago...
One month ago...
This month...
Granted, these are hand picked, and there were tests once in a while that stuck out like a sort thumb, but these are more representative of what's "normally" happening during the given month. November was a little wild, with it going down, then up, then down, then WAY down.
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OK, did some simple math here, please correct me if I made any errors.
3. So, divide 220 Gbps by 5 Mbps and you get the max user capacity at that speed which equals 44,000 customers.
4. In my feeble mind that says if 44,000 customers are trying to stream video at HD, at the same time of night, the satellite throughput is already maxed out.
I realise there is compression and other things being used but still, 44,000 or even 50,000 doesn't seem like that many users to send things over the edge when talking a half million users at least on each of the Echostar 17 & 19 satellites.
Please tell me if my math or logic is off. Point I'm trying to make is people who think they are an island streaming at the higher definitions are affecting the entire ocean.
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I'd actually be pretty good with 10Mbps, as well. Other than large file downloads taking a bit longer, nothing I do would be impacted in any way with a speed of 10Mbps. With most web pages, whether I get 47Mbps or 5Mbps, I don't see much difference.
I remember when I first ordered Gen4 I was thinking that I'd be very happy to get 60% of my up to (10Mbps or 15Mbps (can't remember for sure)) speed, and when my first test gave me 20Mbps I was floored. Nah, something's wrong, it can't be that high. I then got the same result, over and over. I was VERY happy. LOL. Then it kicked up to 30Mbps about six months later. Even better! Too bad it didn't make those darn Windows updates any faster. They were SOOOOO slow. Gen5 took care of that problem.
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I'd actually be pretty good with 10Mbps, as well. Other than large file downloads taking a bit longer, nothing I do would be impacted in any way with a speed of 10Mbps. With most web pages, whether I get 47Mbps or 5Mbps, I don't see much difference.
I remember when I first ordered Gen4 I was thinking that I'd be very happy to get 60% of my up to (10Mbps or 15Mbps (can't remember for sure)) speed, and when my first test gave me 20Mbps I was floored. Nah, something's wrong, it can't be that high. I then got the same result, over and over. I was VERY happy. LOL. Then it kicked up to 30Mbps about six months later. Even better! Too bad it didn't make those darn Windows updates any faster. They were SOOOOO slow. Gen5 took care of that problem.
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I'm fine with 10 mbps speed, anything above that is gravy to me. Maybe because I have never had cable internet. Went from dial-up to satellite, thought I was in heaven. Admit downloading a file at 20-30 mbps is nice but not that big of a deal. I do get a lot of 20-30 mbps speed, especially early morning.
As far as page loading, I've been on high latency satellite for so long I'm used to it and don't expect anything else. I do notice much quicker page loads the few times I use my cell hot spot but truthfully not that big of a deal to me. So old I remember text painting a line at a time on a monochrome green screen over dialup. Took several seconds for a single line.
This here satellite stuff is dang sure awsome if'in ya ask me! :smileyhappy:
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I'm fine with 10 mbps speed, anything above that is gravy to me. Maybe because I have never had cable internet. Went from dial-up to satellite, thought I was in heaven. Admit downloading a file at 20-30 mbps is nice but not that big of a deal. I do get a lot of 20-30 mbps speed, especially early morning.
As far as page loading, I've been on high latency satellite for so long I'm used to it and don't expect anything else. I do notice much quicker page loads the few times I use my cell hot spot but truthfully not that big of a deal to me. So old I remember text painting a line at a time on a monochrome green screen over dialup. Took several seconds for a single line.
This here satellite stuff is dang sure awsome if'in ya ask me! :smileyhappy:
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Windows 10 is a giant piece of brown excrement IMO.
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As you know, you're not the only one that feels that way. For what I use it for Windows 10 is fine, though I do have W8.1 on my notebook becuase it's just too \"weak\" to run well with Windows 10.
And I just recently discovered an easy way to stop the auto updates in Windows 10 (though you have to have Pro or better) and make it like the Windows updates in my notebook (notify, but don't download until I say so), so that's not an issue anymore. Now if they'd just stop that \"telemetry.\" Ugh.
As you know, you're not the only one that feels that way. For what I use it for Windows 10 is fine, though I do have W8.1 on my notebook becuase it's just too \"weak\" to run well with Windows 10.
And I just recently discovered an easy way to stop the auto updates in Windows 10 (though you have to have Pro or better) and make it like the Windows updates in my notebook (notify, but don't download until I say so), so that's not an issue anymore. Now if they'd just stop that \"telemetry.\" Ugh.
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\"I remember when I first ordered Gen4 I was thinking that I'd be very happy to get 60% of my up to (10Mbps or 15Mbps (can't remember for sure)) speed, and when my first test gave me 20Mbps I was floored. Nah, something's wrong, it can't be that high. I then got the same result, over and over. I was VERY happy. LOL. Then it kicked up to 30Mbps about six months later. \"
The satellite really likes you, Gabe. I've never experienced consistent speeds, and of late they've been very slow, sometimes so slow they've affected browsing. It'll get better, though, I'm sure of it.
\"I remember when I first ordered Gen4 I was thinking that I'd be very happy to get 60% of my up to (10Mbps or 15Mbps (can't remember for sure)) speed, and when my first test gave me 20Mbps I was floored. Nah, something's wrong, it can't be that high. I then got the same result, over and over. I was VERY happy. LOL. Then it kicked up to 30Mbps about six months later. \"
The satellite really likes you, Gabe. I've never experienced consistent speeds, and of late they've been very slow, sometimes so slow they've affected browsing. It'll get better, though, I'm sure of it.
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The satellite really likes you, Gabe. I've never experienced consistent speeds, and of late they've been very slow, sometimes so slow they've affected browsing. It'll get better, though, I'm sure of it.
Well, it's not liking me as much lately. As of the last month or so my evening speeds have been dropping considerably, and though my experience isn't as bad as yours, when you're used to it working well, and the speed dropping only somewhat during the peak usage periods, the speed dropping into the low to mid single digits, or lower, is quite noticeable. Again, most things I use it for still work just fine, but I have noticed as of the last few nights that even Youtube vids are starting to have some hiccups, even when my speeds are in the teens.
I think that, maybe, the Hughes' engineers are just trying to even the system out to be able to take care of those badly affected beams I know that something changed, as when my speeds dropped during the peak times about a month ago, it was like a switch. One day there was the normal difference, and the next....BAM! Over the months it had gone from practically no difference to it gradually dropping into the 30s, then 20s, then even the teens, but this drop was practically instant. Again, I'm still not that affected when doing most of the things I normally do, but it was interesting, nonetheless.
Peak usage three months ago...
Two months ago...
One month ago...
This month...
Granted, these are hand picked, and there were tests once in a while that stuck out like a sort thumb, but these are more representative of what's \"normally\" happening during the given month. November was a little wild, with it going down, then up, then down, then WAY down.
The satellite really likes you, Gabe. I've never experienced consistent speeds, and of late they've been very slow, sometimes so slow they've affected browsing. It'll get better, though, I'm sure of it.
Well, it's not liking me as much lately. As of the last month or so my evening speeds have been dropping considerably, and though my experience isn't as bad as yours, when you're used to it working well, and the speed dropping only somewhat during the peak usage periods, the speed dropping into the low to mid single digits, or lower, is quite noticeable. Again, most things I use it for still work just fine, but I have noticed as of the last few nights that even Youtube vids are starting to have some hiccups, even when my speeds are in the teens.
I think that, maybe, the Hughes' engineers are just trying to even the system out to be able to take care of those badly affected beams I know that something changed, as when my speeds dropped during the peak times about a month ago, it was like a switch. One day there was the normal difference, and the next....BAM! Over the months it had gone from practically no difference to it gradually dropping into the 30s, then 20s, then even the teens, but this drop was practically instant. Again, I'm still not that affected when doing most of the things I normally do, but it was interesting, nonetheless.
Peak usage three months ago...
Two months ago...
One month ago...
This month...
Granted, these are hand picked, and there were tests once in a while that stuck out like a sort thumb, but these are more representative of what's \"normally\" happening during the given month. November was a little wild, with it going down, then up, then down, then WAY down.
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