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Junior

9 years ago

6.6.0 Usage meter - Data Cycle Info Missing

I read in the past during an update or two this went missing, and then many complaints it was finally added back in, now it's gone again. It's current state provides no valuable information about...

cybo54

Junior

9 years ago

I see a version mention and notation in the cookies it logs, but unsure if editing or changing that would help. Will play later today and see :smileylol:

C0RR0SIVE

Associate Professor

9 years ago

So... I have done some poking around and found some stuff... I can see why they made the changes, found some information about the area of concern. It appears there are 6 possible messages to display in that area.

Your Anytime Data allotment for this billing cycle is Good. Billing Cycle: days remaining.
Warning! You may exceed Anytime Data allotment for this billing cycle. Billing Cycle: Days Remaining.
Warning! You may exceed your Anytime Data allotment for this billing cycle. Billing Cycle: Days Remaining.
You've exceeded your allotment for this Anytime Data allowance cycle. days remaining.
Using your pre-purchased Token Bytes -.
You've exceeded your allotment for this Anytime Data allowance cycle.
You've exceeded your allotment for this Anytime Data allowance cycle. Billing Cycle: days remaining.
Your Service is now degraded. You can Buy a Token to restore service.

Further investigation I found out what calls for the program to check for updates at least, in 6.6.0, which I have no way of testing since I don't have an older version of the status meter available to play with to verify that it wont check for updates...

I am actually very hesitant to even offer the modified scripts to anyone as someone may become incredibly upset that I am even poking around, even though these files aren't protected in any way, DMCA is a pain...

Anyways~~~ Further testing... >.>

Curious, what is the old version number and was you using 32bit or 64bit? I have 6.5.3 32bit and think I will poke around in it a bit and see if I can disable the update stuff, if you have that same version, if the Hughesnet gods are nice... Then >.>

cybo54
Junior
9 years ago
I saw that quoted text too, and some other similar, but obviously it's not showing anymore which is part of why I started this thread. I'm in the area where it should be giving me those warnings, and it's not telling me that says I'm all good, and and the other info missing is why I was concerned it's a glitch. Plus when I moved to Gen4 Amanda had to switch our plan around a few times due to her offering us a discount, and we had to juggle it with a type of plan/discount that worked with the status meter (First plan didn't work with it right, due to how the discounts were applied). So missing this important info made me concerned for two reasons, mainly the info was missing so it appears to be a bug like before when that happened, and two I thought maybe this was due to what we ran into previously with our plan layout and discount being setup an unusual way.

I was using 6.5.3 x64, it works properly for us.
C0RR0SIVE
Associate Professor
9 years ago
Check your personal messages, use at your own risk, give to no one else... >.>
cybo54
Junior
9 years ago
I will keep to myself, but can't check that out until later tonight due to limited internet ha! :smileylol:
C0RR0SIVE
Associate Professor
9 years ago
I sent a different link this time specially for you, only about 7KB in size I think instead of 100MB+. :) Let me know how it works or if you run into any issues.
cybo54
Junior
9 years ago
Thank you, working fine and I just replied!
Hopefully staff will reply about these removals, or many others will join in all over again and voice their concerns on how benificial this info was for the status meter to provide.
Liz
Moderator
9 years ago
Hi cybo54,

Thank you for your detailed feedback on the new usage meter. I don't know the reasoning for the design change, but I do understand your concerns so I will send up your feedback to our developers for their consideration. Thank you again for sharing.
cybo54
Junior
9 years ago
Thank you for checking Liz!

Corrosive, does the new meter look the same for you as I showed in my images on page one (ie: minimalistic and not showing the data bar I'm concerned with)?

I ask because I found in modem.js the same type of content that appears to call all of the items I'm questioning here. I am not great at Java though, so it may be my confusion, but to me it looks very similar so I expect this new version would still provide the same/similar output. Which leads me back to my other thought and concern here that we previously had with the way our plan and discounts are setup, that didn't initially work properly with status meter and may be affecting the new one in a similar way thus not allowing it to give full info (That was what happened before, limited display/info output due to "plan" not known to the status meter)
C0RR0SIVE
Associate Professor
9 years ago
Yeup, mine is just like yours (The 6.6.0 version) in regards to the message and having less information.

modem.js isn't where that stuff gets generated, it's another file... Can't really discuss it much >.<

But be very cautious about modifying the files if you decide to do so, one bad edit can cause lots of token purchases... lol
cybo54
Junior
9 years ago
Thanks for confirming! I noticed all the different available "modem plans and states" the program compares when choosing which info to provide the user, and with what I ran into before with a out of normal plan setup made me think maybe it's just due to that, but I guess not if it's that way for you too.

On your edit. I assumed it wasn't from that, but seeing similar data output mentioned there made me think maybe it was just our plan setup again because it looks like both old and new generate that same info based on that js file.

I know what you mean about edits, and since I'm not good with java I wouldn't have been testing any edits anyway just looking around.
:smileyvery-happy: Got a good laugh out of that token comment, now find where one wrong edit makes our monthly allotment 100GB anytime and we'll all be set :smileylol:
C0RR0SIVE
Associate Professor
9 years ago
Yeah... that's something controlled at the NOC and might have police knocking at your door at 6AM the next day... LOL
cybo54
Junior
9 years ago
Ha, yes I was joking!! :smileyvery-happy:
I know that wouldn't be possible anyway, maybe make it appear that way on our end, but I know all that's set on their side anyway :smileyhappy:
cybo54
Junior
9 years ago
And see, this is why I thought maybe some issue with the way our plan/discount is setup that's causing some of what I noticed missing.

We're out of data for the month and the new status meter does not show smartbrowsing, while the old one does.
This is same issue we found before with old status meter, smart browsing didn't show due to the way our plan was setup and Amanda had to switch things around a bit.
foxbrook
Sophomore
9 years ago
I also want to give a big thumbs down for the new status meter. I've got my kids (10 and 13) trained to use to old status meter to monitor our usage, now that information is obscured in the new status meter.

Fortunately I still have a copy of the old status meter and will stick with that for as long as possible.

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I do like the new look, but can't use this due to already being used to and benifiting from the info provided with the previous version

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I see a version mention and notation in the cookies it logs, but unsure if editing or changing that would help. Will play later today and see :smileylol:

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I saw that quoted text too, and some other similar, but obviously it's not showing anymore which is part of why I started this thread. I'm in the area where it should be giving me those warnings, and it's not telling me that says I'm all good, and and the other info missing is why I was concerned it's a glitch. Plus when I moved to Gen4 Amanda had to switch our plan around a few times due to her offering us a discount, and we had to juggle it with a type of plan/discount that worked with the status meter (First plan didn't work with it right, due to how the discounts were applied). So missing this important info made me concerned for two reasons, mainly the info was missing so it appears to be a bug like before when that happened, and two I thought maybe this was due to what we ran into previously with our plan layout and discount being setup an unusual way.

I was using 6.5.3 x64, it works properly for us.

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Check your personal messages, use at your own risk, give to no one else... >.>

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I will keep to myself, but can't check that out until later tonight due to limited internet ha! :smileylol:

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I sent a different link this time specially for you, only about 7KB in size I think instead of 100MB+. :) Let me know how it works or if you run into any issues.

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Thank you, working fine and I just replied!

Hopefully staff will reply about these removals, or many others will join in all over again and voice their concerns on how benificial this info was for the status meter to provide.

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Hi cybo54,

Thank you for your detailed feedback on the new usage meter. I don't know the reasoning for the design change, but I do understand your concerns so I will send up your feedback to our developers for their consideration. Thank you again for sharing.

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Thank you for checking Liz!

Corrosive, does the new meter look the same for you as I showed in my images on page one (ie: minimalistic and not showing the data bar I'm concerned with)?

I ask because I found in modem.js the same type of content that appears to call all of the items I'm questioning here. I am not great at Java though, so it may be my confusion, but to me it looks very similar so I expect this new version would still provide the same/similar output. Which leads me back to my other thought and concern here that we previously had with the way our plan and discounts are setup, that didn't initially work properly with status meter and may be affecting the new one in a similar way thus not allowing it to give full info (That was what happened before, limited display/info output due to \"plan\" not known to the status meter)

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Yeup, mine is just like yours (The 6.6.0 version) in regards to the message and having less information.

modem.js isn't where that stuff gets generated, it's another file... Can't really discuss it much >.<

But be very cautious about modifying the files if you decide to do so, one bad edit can cause lots of token purchases... lol

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Thanks for confirming! I noticed all the different available \"modem plans and states\" the program compares when choosing which info to provide the user, and with what I ran into before with a out of normal plan setup made me think maybe it's just due to that, but I guess not if it's that way for you too.

On your edit. I assumed it wasn't from that, but seeing similar data output mentioned there made me think maybe it was just our plan setup again because it looks like both old and new generate that same info based on that js file.

I know what you mean about edits, and since I'm not good with java I wouldn't have been testing any edits anyway just looking around.

:smileyvery-happy: Got a good laugh out of that token comment, now find where one wrong edit makes our monthly allotment 100GB anytime and we'll all be set :smileylol:

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Yeah... that's something controlled at the NOC and might have police knocking at your door at 6AM the next day... LOL

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Ha, yes I was joking!! :smileyvery-happy:

I know that wouldn't be possible anyway, maybe make it appear that way on our end, but I know all that's set on their side anyway :smileyhappy:

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And see, this is why I thought maybe some issue with the way our plan/discount is setup that's causing some of what I noticed missing.

We're out of data for the month and the new status meter does not show smartbrowsing, while the old one does.

This is same issue we found before with old status meter, smart browsing didn't show due to the way our plan was setup and Amanda had to switch things around a bit.

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I also want to give a big thumbs down for the new status meter. I've got my kids (10 and 13) trained to use to old status meter to monitor our usage, now that information is obscured in the new status meter.

Fortunately I still have a copy of the old status meter and will stick with that for as long as possible.

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