I ran a speed test using a utility different than HughesNet's and got the same excellent results. Notice the test results from a year ago of GEN-4 which I considered pretty good at the time. I just u...
My signal strenth for Gen4 normally sat in the low 120s, while my Gen5 varies between about 95 and 105, with it normally, so far, sitting around 102 or 103. The lower signal strength doesn't seem to matter, though, as my connection is great. I have run some ping tests and Hughesnet's own tests and have had zero packet loss with every one of them.
As for my computer, it's been pretty good. I'm not a gamer, so the fact that there was a big uproar about the FX core not being what it claimed to be after it was releasd didn't really affected me. It did make me a little disappointed, though, and it has made me a little more hesitant about jumping right in with the Ryzen like I did with the FX. Still, I do want to build a new desktop some time in the near future and it probably will be with the Ryzen, and by the time I do I'm sure the prices will have come down a bit, as well.
And the Samsung SSDs...great, aren't they? Fast, too! I actually have one in my laptop and notebook, too, with the desktop and laptop being the 840 EVO and the notebook being the standard 840. All three are 250GB drives. I took my original Crucial 128GB SSD, the first SSD I ever bought, and installed it in my folks' Samsung laptop and it breathed new life into it.
I'm wondering what to expect for RSS on G5. I used to get 170-ish with G3 on a clear day and I get 130-140 with G4 since I'm only 35 miles west of beam center. If I see 95 with G5, I'll know to have him try again.
I use my computer for business only. I've been very happy with the FX-6300 since I got it 2½ years ago so I don't know anything about a controversy. I did have to RMA the Asus motherboard right away because of a bad USB 3 port. I got it from Newegg and they always do advance RMA for me so I was down for the time it took me to change the parts. I think I have a couple more years before I have to start researching a new CPU. The less I know, the happier I am
Yes, the Samsung SSD is great. I have the 850 PRO 512GB and I love it. Sammy stuff is good stuff. We have a ton of it here. The most amazing thing about the SSD is how quickly it boots a W7 computer. I'll never go back to a normal drive for a boot drive.
*coughs* I am almost center of beam and sitting at 102 at this moment, but most all day have been at 95... Weather conditions all day today, crystal clear sunny skies. As far as the dish passes OVT and works, not much anyone can do to force the installer to peak any higher. But, if you are close to being center of beam on J1, you are probably closer to edge of beam on J2, and vice verse.
I'm right where I put the yellow dot in Western, NY. Not in the center of the beam, but still not a bad placement. My RSS is sitting at 99 right now, but it's overcast. I also don't know where my Gateway is to know what the weather is like. Wherever ROS is. Roswell, NM?
There are a few Jupiter II only gateways that aren't on that map... I happen to be on one of them, and Gabe happens to be on another one of them it seems.
I use my computer for business only. I've been very happy with the FX-6300 since I got it 2½ years ago so I don't know anything about a controversy.
It was basically that what is purported to be a six core CPU is actually a three core CPU with each core divided into two "modules" acting as cores. People were angry that they weren't getting a true six core CPU, though, for the most part, it still acts as a six core CPU. For the most part there is no difference in performance, especially for what most people use their computer for. Only those runnig certain data intensive programs might notice the difference between these and true six core.
It was the same with the four and eight core FX's, with them really being two and four core with those cores, again, divided to make two each.
The performance in gaming and other intensive programs wasn't quite what they purpoted it would be with the FX, either. You have the third generation, though, so yours is updated and much better than the FX6100.
It caused a lot of people to learn their lesson with jumping right in, even if it didn't really affect them. This is why I am waiting on the Ryzen to see what is said about it before I buy one for a new build.
Again, though, with all of this said, for us and most others, it's still just like a six core CPU and it works very well. People just wish they would have been more honest from the start and their reputation took a bit of a hit.
That's interesting. Thanks for the info Gabe. I didn't know anything about that but AMD is supposedly a lot of the reason our Intel stock with reinvested dividends has doubled in value in the last four years.
The last two notebooks I bought for my wife and myself are i7.
Actually... It's a bit hairier than one would think when it comes to the FX series... For example an FX 8-core CPU is more similar to a 4-core CPU with HT enabled. While not a true 8-cores, the CPU can process upto 8 threads at one time, and in some instances appear as 8 individual cores to the OS. The efficiency however depends greatly on how well the software is coded.
In virtualization, an FX-8350 is a beast of a CPU for the cost compared to an i7. However, in single threaded applications, performance could suffer greatly, and applications with poor coding and built around the SMT instead of CMT method would choke horribly on an FX series CPU. AMD Ryzen has since switched to SMT and is killing Intel in terms of multi-threaded performance, and staying on par in most single-threaded applications, sometimes falling slightly short...
Below is a diagram I grabbed off of wikipedia... You see the four modules, but looking at each module, you see two integer units for 8 total "cores", the modules also share a good bit of stuff, mostly cache, memory controller and pci-e lanes. Great for specialty workloads like running ESXi/VMWare, horrible for most other things. FX 8 Core CPU
Below is an Intel Skylake i7 Quad Core with SMT take note it has four cores but you can see everything shares a bit of cache, Memory Controller, among other things. Strangely, most normal people buying an i7 always thought they was getting an 8-core CPU as Intel and partners didn't state "Quad Core" and would always say, "with Hyper-threading". Why the masses didn't go up in arms over that in the earlier core-series life is beyond me. i7-6700k diagram
Ryzen... Is different... It's new, powerful, and does an amazing job at multi-threaded applications, I plan on waiting a bit for the bugs to be worked out, as is seen with any release of a brand new architecture. I suggest reading this article if you wanna learn more about Ryzen... http://www.ocdrift.com/amd-ryzen-cpu-die-diagram-exposed/
ALL THAT JABBERING ASIDE... Most people honestly don't need any more than a dual core CPU like the Intel Pentium G3258, or a more modern Skylake Pentium... Seeing as Pentiums are now getting the HT treatment, they are more like i3 processors. More than sufficient for the typical user.
I wish I had invested in AMD two years ago... $1.67/share and they are at $14.16/share now and could go even higher as the year goes on. Could have made a killing on that.
PowerPC all the way! Man, all that info reminds me of the Intel vs PowerPC debate. We all know who won that, but in my uses PowerPC was a superior processor, they just could not keep up with the heat being produced on the higher end G5 and then mobile computing on a G5 never really panned out. Too bad, I liked it.
I personally am an AMD fan as well...but stuck using an i5 at work.
Thanks for all the CPU info C0RR0SIVE. Interesting stuff.
The AMD stock is certainly amazing considering the book value is a piddling 50¢ a share. It's one of the most overvalued stocks on the market. Even worse than Tesla.
ALL THAT JABBERING ASIDE... Most people honestly don't need any more than a dual core CPU like the Intel Pentium G3258, or a more modern Skylake Pentium... Seeing as Pentiums are now getting the HT treatment, they are more like i3 processors. More than sufficient for the typical user.
Exactly. For most people, the debacle didn't really affect them. With that said, though, one thing it definitely had an effect on, whether the processor really did or not, was trust in the company. It wasn't so much it not performing they way they purported it would for the high end users, but rather people being felt like they were straight out lied to. A company really takes a hit from something like that, and in AMD's delicate position, had they not owned a graphics processor division (ATI), they may not be here today.
Waiting on Ryzen is definitely the way to go. It looks like it's great, but better to wait.
Yeup, I keep getting asked to price out Ryzen builds, and most people wanting custom builds need ECC memory... Difficult to recomend Ryzen when it has memory compatability issues with regular RAM... Forget trying to find a good board that supports ECC right now, that will take a few years.
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My signal strenth for Gen4 normally sat in the low 120s, while my Gen5 varies between about 95 and 105, with it normally, so far, sitting around 102 or 103. The lower signal strength doesn't seem to matter, though, as my connection is great. I have run some ping tests and Hughesnet's own tests and have had zero packet loss with every one of them.
As for my computer, it's been pretty good. I'm not a gamer, so the fact that there was a big uproar about the FX core not being what it claimed to be after it was releasd didn't really affected me. It did make me a little disappointed, though, and it has made me a little more hesitant about jumping right in with the Ryzen like I did with the FX. Still, I do want to build a new desktop some time in the near future and it probably will be with the Ryzen, and by the time I do I'm sure the prices will have come down a bit, as well.
And the Samsung SSDs...great, aren't they? Fast, too! I actually have one in my laptop and notebook, too, with the desktop and laptop being the 840 EVO and the notebook being the standard 840. All three are 250GB drives. I took my original Crucial 128GB SSD, the first SSD I ever bought, and installed it in my folks' Samsung laptop and it breathed new life into it.
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My signal strenth for Gen4 normally sat in the low 120s, while my Gen5 varies between about 95 and 105, with it normally, so far, sitting around 102 or 103. The lower signal strength doesn't seem to matter, though, as my connection is great. I have run some ping tests and Hughesnet's own tests and have had zero packet loss with every one of them.
As for my computer, it's been pretty good. I'm not a gamer, so the fact that there was a big uproar about the FX core not being what it claimed to be after it was releasd didn't really affected me. It did make me a little disappointed, though, and it has made me a little more hesitant about jumping right in with the Ryzen like I did with the FX. Still, I do want to build a new desktop some time in the near future and it probably will be with the Ryzen, and by the time I do I'm sure the prices will have come down a bit, as well.
And the Samsung SSDs...great, aren't they? Fast, too! I actually have one in my laptop and notebook, too, with the desktop and laptop being the 840 EVO and the notebook being the standard 840. All three are 250GB drives. I took my original Crucial 128GB SSD, the first SSD I ever bought, and installed it in my folks' Samsung laptop and it breathed new life into it.
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Thanks Gabe. How does your G5 RSS number compare to your G4 number?
Your computer looks a lot like mine. FX-6300, Samsung SSD boot drive and a couple of WD Blacks with 16 GB RAM
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Thanks Gabe. How does your G5 RSS number compare to your G4 number?
Your computer looks a lot like mine. FX-6300, Samsung SSD boot drive and a couple of WD Blacks with 16 GB RAM
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I'm wondering what to expect for RSS on G5. I used to get 170-ish with G3 on a clear day and I get 130-140 with G4 since I'm only 35 miles west of beam center. If I see 95 with G5, I'll know to have him try again.
I use my computer for business only. I've been very happy with the FX-6300 since I got it 2½ years ago so I don't know anything about a controversy. I did have to RMA the Asus motherboard right away because of a bad USB 3 port. I got it from Newegg and they always do advance RMA for me so I was down for the time it took me to change the parts. I think I have a couple more years before I have to start researching a new CPU. The less I know, the happier I am
Yes, the Samsung SSD is great. I have the 850 PRO 512GB and I love it. Sammy stuff is good stuff. We have a ton of it here. The most amazing thing about the SSD is how quickly it boots a W7 computer. I'll never go back to a normal drive for a boot drive.
I'm wondering what to expect for RSS on G5. I used to get 170-ish with G3 on a clear day and I get 130-140 with G4 since I'm only 35 miles west of beam center. If I see 95 with G5, I'll know to have him try again.
I use my computer for business only. I've been very happy with the FX-6300 since I got it 2½ years ago so I don't know anything about a controversy. I did have to RMA the Asus motherboard right away because of a bad USB 3 port. I got it from Newegg and they always do advance RMA for me so I was down for the time it took me to change the parts. I think I have a couple more years before I have to start researching a new CPU. The less I know, the happier I am
Yes, the Samsung SSD is great. I have the 850 PRO 512GB and I love it. Sammy stuff is good stuff. We have a ton of it here. The most amazing thing about the SSD is how quickly it boots a W7 computer. I'll never go back to a normal drive for a boot drive.
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*coughs* I am almost center of beam and sitting at 102 at this moment, but most all day have been at 95... Weather conditions all day today, crystal clear sunny skies. As far as the dish passes OVT and works, not much anyone can do to force the installer to peak any higher. But, if you are close to being center of beam on J1, you are probably closer to edge of beam on J2, and vice verse.
*coughs* I am almost center of beam and sitting at 102 at this moment, but most all day have been at 95... Weather conditions all day today, crystal clear sunny skies. As far as the dish passes OVT and works, not much anyone can do to force the installer to peak any higher. But, if you are close to being center of beam on J1, you are probably closer to edge of beam on J2, and vice verse.
We're solid overcast with massive cumulonimbus coming in off the gulf tonight so my signal is low.
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I'm right where I put the yellow dot in Western, NY. Not in the center of the beam, but still not a bad placement. My RSS is sitting at 99 right now, but it's overcast. I also don't know where my Gateway is to know what the weather is like. Wherever ROS is. Roswell, NM?
I'm right where I put the yellow dot in Western, NY. Not in the center of the beam, but still not a bad placement. My RSS is sitting at 99 right now, but it's overcast. I also don't know where my Gateway is to know what the weather is like. Wherever ROS is. Roswell, NM?
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I may be wrong but I think you all up north get lower signal by default just because you're farther away.
Yes, I think there's a Roswell gateway on Gwalk's map. Looks like beautiful weather in Roswell tonight.
On his map there's one in Albuquerque, but not Roswell. There're most likely Gateways for Gen5 that aren't on that map, though.
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There are a few Jupiter II only gateways that aren't on that map... I happen to be on one of them, and Gabe happens to be on another one of them it seems.
There are a few Jupiter II only gateways that aren't on that map... I happen to be on one of them, and Gabe happens to be on another one of them it seems.
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I use my computer for business only. I've been very happy with the FX-6300 since I got it 2½ years ago so I don't know anything about a controversy.
It was basically that what is purported to be a six core CPU is actually a three core CPU with each core divided into two \"modules\" acting as cores. People were angry that they weren't getting a true six core CPU, though, for the most part, it still acts as a six core CPU. For the most part there is no difference in performance, especially for what most people use their computer for. Only those runnig certain data intensive programs might notice the difference between these and true six core.
It was the same with the four and eight core FX's, with them really being two and four core with those cores, again, divided to make two each.
The performance in gaming and other intensive programs wasn't quite what they purpoted it would be with the FX, either. You have the third generation, though, so yours is updated and much better than the FX6100.
It caused a lot of people to learn their lesson with jumping right in, even if it didn't really affect them. This is why I am waiting on the Ryzen to see what is said about it before I buy one for a new build.
Again, though, with all of this said, for us and most others, it's still just like a six core CPU and it works very well. People just wish they would have been more honest from the start and their reputation took a bit of a hit.
I use my computer for business only. I've been very happy with the FX-6300 since I got it 2½ years ago so I don't know anything about a controversy.
It was basically that what is purported to be a six core CPU is actually a three core CPU with each core divided into two \"modules\" acting as cores. People were angry that they weren't getting a true six core CPU, though, for the most part, it still acts as a six core CPU. For the most part there is no difference in performance, especially for what most people use their computer for. Only those runnig certain data intensive programs might notice the difference between these and true six core.
It was the same with the four and eight core FX's, with them really being two and four core with those cores, again, divided to make two each.
The performance in gaming and other intensive programs wasn't quite what they purpoted it would be with the FX, either. You have the third generation, though, so yours is updated and much better than the FX6100.
It caused a lot of people to learn their lesson with jumping right in, even if it didn't really affect them. This is why I am waiting on the Ryzen to see what is said about it before I buy one for a new build.
Again, though, with all of this said, for us and most others, it's still just like a six core CPU and it works very well. People just wish they would have been more honest from the start and their reputation took a bit of a hit.
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That's interesting. Thanks for the info Gabe. I didn't know anything about that but AMD is supposedly a lot of the reason our Intel stock with reinvested dividends has doubled in value in the last four years.
The last two notebooks I bought for my wife and myself are i7.
That's interesting. Thanks for the info Gabe. I didn't know anything about that but AMD is supposedly a lot of the reason our Intel stock with reinvested dividends has doubled in value in the last four years.
The last two notebooks I bought for my wife and myself are i7.
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Actually... It's a bit hairier than one would think when it comes to the FX series... For example an FX 8-core CPU is more similar to a 4-core CPU with HT enabled. While not a true 8-cores, the CPU can process upto 8 threads at one time, and in some instances appear as 8 individual cores to the OS. The efficiency however depends greatly on how well the software is coded.
In virtualization, an FX-8350 is a beast of a CPU for the cost compared to an i7. However, in single threaded applications, performance could suffer greatly, and applications with poor coding and built around the SMT instead of CMT method would choke horribly on an FX series CPU. AMD Ryzen has since switched to SMT and is killing Intel in terms of multi-threaded performance, and staying on par in most single-threaded applications, sometimes falling slightly short...
Below is a diagram I grabbed off of wikipedia... You see the four modules, but looking at each module, you see two integer units for 8 total \"cores\", the modules also share a good bit of stuff, mostly cache, memory controller and pci-e lanes. Great for specialty workloads like running ESXi/VMWare, horrible for most other things. FX 8 Core CPU
Below is an Intel Skylake i7 Quad Core with SMT take note it has four cores but you can see everything shares a bit of cache, Memory Controller, among other things. Strangely, most normal people buying an i7 always thought they was getting an 8-core CPU as Intel and partners didn't state \"Quad Core\" and would always say, \"with Hyper-threading\". Why the masses didn't go up in arms over that in the earlier core-series life is beyond me. i7-6700k diagram
Ryzen... Is different... It's new, powerful, and does an amazing job at multi-threaded applications, I plan on waiting a bit for the bugs to be worked out, as is seen with any release of a brand new architecture. I suggest reading this article if you wanna learn more about Ryzen... http://www.ocdrift.com/amd-ryzen-cpu-die-diagram-exposed/
ALL THAT JABBERING ASIDE... Most people honestly don't need any more than a dual core CPU like the Intel Pentium G3258, or a more modern Skylake Pentium... Seeing as Pentiums are now getting the HT treatment, they are more like i3 processors. More than sufficient for the typical user.
I wish I had invested in AMD two years ago... $1.67/share and they are at $14.16/share now and could go even higher as the year goes on. Could have made a killing on that.
Actually... It's a bit hairier than one would think when it comes to the FX series... For example an FX 8-core CPU is more similar to a 4-core CPU with HT enabled. While not a true 8-cores, the CPU can process upto 8 threads at one time, and in some instances appear as 8 individual cores to the OS. The efficiency however depends greatly on how well the software is coded.
In virtualization, an FX-8350 is a beast of a CPU for the cost compared to an i7. However, in single threaded applications, performance could suffer greatly, and applications with poor coding and built around the SMT instead of CMT method would choke horribly on an FX series CPU. AMD Ryzen has since switched to SMT and is killing Intel in terms of multi-threaded performance, and staying on par in most single-threaded applications, sometimes falling slightly short...
Below is a diagram I grabbed off of wikipedia... You see the four modules, but looking at each module, you see two integer units for 8 total \"cores\", the modules also share a good bit of stuff, mostly cache, memory controller and pci-e lanes. Great for specialty workloads like running ESXi/VMWare, horrible for most other things. FX 8 Core CPU
Below is an Intel Skylake i7 Quad Core with SMT take note it has four cores but you can see everything shares a bit of cache, Memory Controller, among other things. Strangely, most normal people buying an i7 always thought they was getting an 8-core CPU as Intel and partners didn't state \"Quad Core\" and would always say, \"with Hyper-threading\". Why the masses didn't go up in arms over that in the earlier core-series life is beyond me. i7-6700k diagram
Ryzen... Is different... It's new, powerful, and does an amazing job at multi-threaded applications, I plan on waiting a bit for the bugs to be worked out, as is seen with any release of a brand new architecture. I suggest reading this article if you wanna learn more about Ryzen... http://www.ocdrift.com/amd-ryzen-cpu-die-diagram-exposed/
ALL THAT JABBERING ASIDE... Most people honestly don't need any more than a dual core CPU like the Intel Pentium G3258, or a more modern Skylake Pentium... Seeing as Pentiums are now getting the HT treatment, they are more like i3 processors. More than sufficient for the typical user.
I wish I had invested in AMD two years ago... $1.67/share and they are at $14.16/share now and could go even higher as the year goes on. Could have made a killing on that.
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PowerPC all the way! Man, all that info reminds me of the Intel vs PowerPC debate. We all know who won that, but in my uses PowerPC was a superior processor, they just could not keep up with the heat being produced on the higher end G5 and then mobile computing on a G5 never really panned out. Too bad, I liked it.
I personally am an AMD fan as well...but stuck using an i5 at work.
PowerPC all the way! Man, all that info reminds me of the Intel vs PowerPC debate. We all know who won that, but in my uses PowerPC was a superior processor, they just could not keep up with the heat being produced on the higher end G5 and then mobile computing on a G5 never really panned out. Too bad, I liked it.
I personally am an AMD fan as well...but stuck using an i5 at work.
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Thanks for all the CPU info C0RR0SIVE. Interesting stuff.
The AMD stock is certainly amazing considering the book value is a piddling 50¢ a share. It's one of the most overvalued stocks on the market. Even worse than Tesla.
Thanks for all the CPU info C0RR0SIVE. Interesting stuff.
The AMD stock is certainly amazing considering the book value is a piddling 50¢ a share. It's one of the most overvalued stocks on the market. Even worse than Tesla.
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ALL THAT JABBERING ASIDE... Most people honestly don't need any more than a dual core CPU like the Intel Pentium G3258, or a more modern Skylake Pentium... Seeing as Pentiums are now getting the HT treatment, they are more like i3 processors. More than sufficient for the typical user.
Exactly. For most people, the debacle didn't really affect them. With that said, though, one thing it definitely had an effect on, whether the processor really did or not, was trust in the company. It wasn't so much it not performing they way they purported it would for the high end users, but rather people being felt like they were straight out lied to. A company really takes a hit from something like that, and in AMD's delicate position, had they not owned a graphics processor division (ATI), they may not be here today.
Waiting on Ryzen is definitely the way to go. It looks like it's great, but better to wait.
ALL THAT JABBERING ASIDE... Most people honestly don't need any more than a dual core CPU like the Intel Pentium G3258, or a more modern Skylake Pentium... Seeing as Pentiums are now getting the HT treatment, they are more like i3 processors. More than sufficient for the typical user.
Exactly. For most people, the debacle didn't really affect them. With that said, though, one thing it definitely had an effect on, whether the processor really did or not, was trust in the company. It wasn't so much it not performing they way they purported it would for the high end users, but rather people being felt like they were straight out lied to. A company really takes a hit from something like that, and in AMD's delicate position, had they not owned a graphics processor division (ATI), they may not be here today.
Waiting on Ryzen is definitely the way to go. It looks like it's great, but better to wait.
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Yeup, I keep getting asked to price out Ryzen builds, and most people wanting custom builds need ECC memory... Difficult to recomend Ryzen when it has memory compatability issues with regular RAM... Forget trying to find a good board that supports ECC right now, that will take a few years.
Yeup, I keep getting asked to price out Ryzen builds, and most people wanting custom builds need ECC memory... Difficult to recomend Ryzen when it has memory compatability issues with regular RAM... Forget trying to find a good board that supports ECC right now, that will take a few years.
