Can someone please explain the pro's & con's on the following plan & platforms.
1. Gen4 on J1
2. Gen5 on J1
3. Gen5 on J2
I have been trying to do research to find the best plan for m...
Liz, is that to say then that once a Gen5 plan is selected, there will be no difference in performance if a user is aimed at either ES17 or ES19 and the only reason to go with a HT2000w modem is if a user wants the integrated WiFi?
Once load on ES17 is reduced and some thrown onto ES19, Gen5 users should expect the same performance on either bird, AFAIK, all Gen5 plans REQUIRE the HT2000w regardless of bird. Upto mods to state if that is a fact though, I suspect that "Jupiter II Technology" directly references the HT2000w, seeing as it is usable on both birds.
That's right, Gwalk. There's no difference in service since both satellites can support Gen 5. The HT1100 can run Gen 5 too, but those plans won't be available on EchoStar 17 anytime soon. As the others have been saying, we need to get customers off EchoStar 17 and onto EchoStar 19 before we can start offering Gen 5 on the older satellite.
How can the HT1100 offer Gen5 plans when Wifi is touted as being a component to Gen5 according to all marketing material that I have seen?
jezra The video data saver works on popular websites like Netflix(not sure on this one in how it works!), Youtube, and Hulu if you have the video player set to "Auto" which it is by default. What happens is Youtube bases the stream resolution on how fast the last downloaded chunk occured, thus if it takes long enough to download, it will set the resolution lower. You could in theory set your own data saver up if you know how with traffic shaping.
You can actually see a continuous lower amount of incoming traffic from the HT2000W to your device when streaming a video and data saver on. When the mode is disabled or "snoozing" you will see the higher burst speeds typical of youtube downloading large chunks of data even at 720p. It's highly unlikely they are processing a throttled stream gateway side for each individual user and are doing it at the modem level. Less work gateway side, more work modem side, certainly more efficient than you would think, and keeps extra load out of an area we don't want it, the gateway facility. The less load the gateway has, the better for everyone.
Yes, we do pitch the WiFi modem as a component of Gen 5, we just don't pitch that the HT1100 also works with Gen 5. Considering Gen 5 won't be available on EchoStar 17 for a while, there's no emphasis on the HT1100's compatibilty with Gen 5.
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Can someone please explain the pro's & con's on the following plan & platforms.
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1. Gen4 on J1
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2. Gen5 on J1
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I have been trying to do research to find the best plan for my wife & myself. A little help from the champions would go a long way. I want to make an informed decision. At this time I'm on Gen4 with the Prime plan.
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Thank you in advanced for your advice.
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Reggie
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Liz, is that to say then that once a Gen5 plan is selected, there will be no difference in performance if a user is aimed at either ES17 or ES19 and the only reason to go with a HT2000w modem is if a user wants the integrated WiFi?
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, is that to say then that once a Gen5 plan is selected, there will be no difference in performance if a user is aimed at either ES17 or ES19 and the only reason to go with a HT2000w modem is if a user wants the integrated WiFi?
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Hi Reggie,
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All Gen 5 plans are eventually going to be serviced by both EchoStar 17 and 19, powered by Jupiter 2 technology; no \"wannabe\" plans.
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Hi Reggie,
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All Gen 5 plans are eventually going to be serviced by both EchoStar 17 and 19, powered by Jupiter 2 technology; no \"wannabe\" plans.
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Once load on ES17 is reduced and some thrown onto ES19, Gen5 users should expect the same performance on either bird, AFAIK, all Gen5 plans REQUIRE the HT2000w regardless of bird. Upto mods to state if that is a fact though, I suspect that \"Jupiter II Technology\" directly references the HT2000w, seeing as it is usable on both birds.
Once load on ES17 is reduced and some thrown onto ES19, Gen5 users should expect the same performance on either bird, AFAIK, all Gen5 plans REQUIRE the HT2000w regardless of bird. Upto mods to state if that is a fact though, I suspect that \"Jupiter II Technology\" directly references the HT2000w, seeing as it is usable on both birds.
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That's right, Gwalk. There's no difference in service since both satellites can support Gen 5. The HT1100 can run Gen 5 too, but those plans won't be available on EchoStar 17 anytime soon. As the others have been saying, we need to get customers off EchoStar 17 and onto EchoStar 19 before we can start offering Gen 5 on the older satellite.
That's right, Gwalk. There's no difference in service since both satellites can support Gen 5. The HT1100 can run Gen 5 too, but those plans won't be available on EchoStar 17 anytime soon. As the others have been saying, we need to get customers off EchoStar 17 and onto EchoStar 19 before we can start offering Gen 5 on the older satellite.
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How can the HT1100 offer Gen5 plans when Wifi is touted as being a component to Gen5 according to all marketing material that I have seen?
jezra The video data saver works on popular websites like Netflix(not sure on this one in how it works!), Youtube, and Hulu if you have the video player set to \"Auto\" which it is by default. What happens is Youtube bases the stream resolution on how fast the last downloaded chunk occured, thus if it takes long enough to download, it will set the resolution lower. You could in theory set your own data saver up if you know how with traffic shaping.
You can actually see a continuous lower amount of incoming traffic from the HT2000W to your device when streaming a video and data saver on. When the mode is disabled or \"snoozing\" you will see the higher burst speeds typical of youtube downloading large chunks of data even at 720p. It's highly unlikely they are processing a throttled stream gateway side for each individual user and are doing it at the modem level. Less work gateway side, more work modem side, certainly more efficient than you would think, and keeps extra load out of an area we don't want it, the gateway facility. The less load the gateway has, the better for everyone.
How can the HT1100 offer Gen5 plans when Wifi is touted as being a component to Gen5 according to all marketing material that I have seen?
The video data saver works on popular websites like Netflix(not sure on this one in how it works!), Youtube, and Hulu if you have the video player set to \"Auto\" which it is by default. What happens is Youtube bases the stream resolution on how fast the last downloaded chunk occured, thus if it takes long enough to download, it will set the resolution lower. You could in theory set your own data saver up if you know how with traffic shaping.
You can actually see a continuous lower amount of incoming traffic from the HT2000W to your device when streaming a video and data saver on. When the mode is disabled or \"snoozing\" you will see the higher burst speeds typical of youtube downloading large chunks of data even at 720p. It's highly unlikely they are processing a throttled stream gateway side for each individual user and are doing it at the modem level. Less work gateway side, more work modem side, certainly more efficient than you would think, and keeps extra load out of an area we don't want it, the gateway facility. The less load the gateway has, the better for everyone.
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Hi C0RR0SIVE,
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Yes, we do pitch the WiFi modem as a component of Gen 5, we just don't pitch that the HT1100 also works with Gen 5. Considering Gen 5 won't be available on EchoStar 17 for a while, there's no emphasis on the HT1100's compatibilty with Gen 5.
Yes, we do pitch the WiFi modem as a component of Gen 5, we just don't pitch that the HT1100 also works with Gen 5. Considering Gen 5 won't be available on EchoStar 17 for a while, there's no emphasis on the HT1100's compatibilty with Gen 5.
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