Hidden Network

I think we could have taken a better tone to lake_woman

There is certainly nothing wrong in questioning the security of our networks.

I have always felt that my Router held the "keys to my Network Kindom". My Network, My Router, My Rules.

While I have don't believe that Hughes has anything up their sleeve AND we are all behind a CGN server I still like to have as much control over my network as I can muster.

While I am still, and shall remain on Gen4, I would not enable the wireless portion of the HT2000w.

I will continue to use my Asus RT-AC3100

Guys... Just chill... please?

This issue has been marked by the OP several times as being solved.

Think it needs to be locked down and stowed by the admins (if that's still possible) so it can't continue to feed on itself.

Excellent idea, Mark. 

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lake_woman wrote: 

We were not notified that there would be an update that would give us an Hidden Network. It just showed up out of nowhere, no explaination at all.

 

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No one was notified because it's a modem update, not a service update.  Hughesnet isn't required to let you, nor anyone else, know.  Nor are they required to tell you what it's for, nor anything else about it.  About the only thing they may answer is..."Is it a security concern?"  I'm sure the answer will be, "no."      

As has already been stated..."It has been included to provide support for a future service from HughesNet. This will not affect your normal service or usage."

lake_woman

While you may dislike that there is a "hidden" network (it's only named that because the devices you are using don't know the name, it's not actually hidden), it doesn't harm you having it there in the slightest.  If you want to be notified of future changes, I suggest becoming a major stakeholder in Echostar, then you will be notified of future changes.

• The network in question is secure
• The network in question has no SSID visible, only devices that know the SSID could begin a connection.
• The network in question is most likely using a passphrase that no one could guess, nor crack, and that's if they could first figure out the SSID
• The network in question doesn't change your service in the slightest, it's not part of your "account".

The simple truth is, it's there, for future uses, if Hughesnet really wanted to spy on you, they wouldn't do it in any manor that you could detect, nor never know.  They haven't made a change to your account, they have made a change to the modem, a change that removes absolutely nothing from your service.

I can assure you, they are not using that hidden network to hack into your private network, if that is what you are worried about. There would be HUGE legal consequences if they did that.

maratsade

"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men..."

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lake_woman wrote:

 

It is a problem when asking Hughesnet about changes that are seen and no explanation has been made. 

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No.  It's not a problem asking about changes that are seen and no explanation has been made.  Not at all.  You asked.  You were answered.  You accepted the answer as a solution, and thanked the person for answering the mystery.  

You then proceed to post that you are not only owed further explanation, but wouldn't even accept the explanation you received from an official rep, nor from anyone else basically telling you the same thing.  

You just don't like the explanation you are receiving, and seem to be demanding to know just exactly what the hidden network is, and what it's for.  

They aren't required to notify you of an update, nor anything about it, unless it directly affects your service.  It didn't.  They aren't required to tell you what the hidden network is, nor what it's for, beyond the explanation that has already been given, and that was most likely a courtesy that wasn't required, either.  You immediately assume that it could be something nefarious.  First, it can't be accessed by anyone.  Second, there are laws governing what can and can't be accessed by a provider, and this hidden network isn't something to circumnavigate those laws.  They aren't spying on you.  

That you don't like the answer you received is just something you're going to have to deal with.   No one is having fun with "clueless banter."  That you turn it off?  Fine.  I have it turned off, too.

Being cautious is fine, and even good.  Demanding more information because you don't like the answers you have already received is another story.  You are in no position to demand anything regarding this hidden network, nor the update that contained its implementation.  It's there.  It's for a future service.  It's not spying on you.  No one can utilize it at this time.     

With that, I will comment no more regarding your posts.  Good day to you.  

To add:  At least with me, the tone is basically due to demanding further explanation.  That's all.  Asking is one thing.  Demanding is another.    

Or use a third party router as I would do if I ever did go to Gen 5, problem solved. I like having a router that shows usage by device, the HT2000W does not.