I tried to update my Laptop which is an older computer (Dell Inspiron 1720). I downloaded it from Microsoft's website before the release (I am a Microsoft Insider - I was testing Windows 10 before the initial release -- Have not been doing much since the Release though) The upgrade did not work on my system. I was unable to connect to the internet at all. My WiFi adapter did not show any networks to connect to. My Ethernet adapter also did not connent when directly connected to the modem. I had to roll back to previous build which works perfectly.
I attempted doing a full clean install of Creators Update. I formatted my hard drive and Creators Update would not complete the install. I run it multiple times and it kept stopping at a certain percentage. I then had to reinstall an earlier build of Windows 10 and got my system back up to date after a week or so. Then the Creator Update came through in Windows Update. I figured they might have corrected my problem so I went ahead and downloaded it via WU. The problem still exists. I tried installing Network Adapter drivers from my external hard drive which did not work. Tried to use a USB WiFi adapter and was unable to get that to work either. I am currently back on previous build, I hope the update does not come back up in WU but I bet it will. I might give it another try in a few weeks to see if anything was fixed.
I have the ISO downloaded so I might try to update other systems.
If you download the update directly from Microsoft website 32 bit version is around 2.77 GB -- 64 bit is around 3.55 GB. I have both versions downloaded -- I have a few systems that I might be upgradeing that are 64 bit. I am not exactly sure what the Windows Update file size is. I would imagine it being the same since it is a full system update. (I would suggest downloading it from Microsoft's website if you want the upgrade -- So you can burn it to DVD or store on an external hard drive if you ever want / need to do a reinstall)
This time around, the Creators Update (Windows Version 1703) didn't uninstall any of my programs, however, a few lost their registration, and had to be reactivated. Still annoying, but not as bad as before where programs had been fully removed and no notes left behind. I have only noticed this with a few programs, seems they may be storing registration information somewhere in the registry that is being overwrote during upgrades.
Some things I have noticed and have done...
-Went back into Settings > Privacy and checked to make sure all the settings I wanted applied, are still applied. A few changed, most didn't.
-Your default applications are reset back to default during the upgrade... Chrome set as default browser? You're going to have to tell Win10 under Settings > Apps what you want for defaults again.
-Noticed there's a new section in settings, "Gaming", went in and turned the "Game Bar" off as I don't need that annoying thing when gaming, and I also disabled "Game Mode"
-Wired connections can now be set to metered! Settings > Network & Internet > Status > Change Connection Properties > Set as metered connect
-Those that use natural daylight instead of 100w equivilent lightbulbs for their room lighting might find the Settings > System > Display > Nightlight option useful. It allows you to change the color tone of your screen so that it's not as stressful on your eyes being the only bright object in the room. Allowing for a more warm coloration, or cooler, depending on the options you chose under "Night Light Settings".
All of that aside, while writing this out and poking at things to make sure information was accurate, I noticed something... When looking at the "Data Usage" under network, I have used over 10TB in the last month! ROFL
Most of it was me backing things up, and poking around in my server... Next up was Chrome at 670GB, but that was me streaming from my server. lol
The Metered option for Wired Connections is a nice added feature, which should have been added to the original version. I purchased a USB WiFi Adapter for my Desktop so I could run Windows 10 and be able to set it as Metered.
10+ TB WOW LOL. They need to add an option to set it External Usage Only.
While I haven't yet done the upgrade I have done some research to ascertain when it is best for me to do the upgrade. You'll find the key results of that research in this post: Win10 Creators Update (v1703) considerations. I've decided to wait until the CBB (Current Branch for Business) version is released. I don't find enough of the new features compelling enough to be a beta tester for Microsoft.
Thank you for the info, everyone. It's definitely helpful.
I think what I may do is upgrade my laptop, since it is not my main computer. I will also download the ISO, so if I decide I like 1703 I can do a clean install on the laptop, then see how that goes. If everything goes well and there are no significant problems, I will perform the update on my desktop, but not until then. And then, again, if everything goes well, the clean install. I don't have anything on either computer that isn't easy to download and install again, so that won't be a problem. Both my laptop and desktop have Windows 10 Pro 64 bit installed presently, so the ISO will work for the clean install on both, though I have to do the upgrade on each first so each one is digitally logged. I don't think a clean install of 1703 will activate with a digital license that is tied to 1607, so I have to upgrade first, then do the clean install later.
I am not exactly sure what all is new in 1703, but I know there is a 3D Paint program. I did open it once to see what it was before I restored to previous Build the last time. I was not pleased with it, I only spent like 30 seconds in the program and closed it. I do like the Wired Connection being able to be set to Metered. Esp. with Gen5 getting SUPER FAST speeds over Wired Connection compared to WiFi. I keep the Setup files for all programs I have on my computer on my External / Second Hard Drive. So its not much of a deal for me to do Clean Installs. Theres some I dont keep which are programs that are constantly updated and will have to redownload anyway (like Adobe Flash Player, Firefox, Chrome ect.)
GabeU It must be nice to have the Pro version. You have much more control over Windows. You shouldnt have a problem with system updates, isnt there an option to set not to download updates? Metered Connection does good, but I still would much rather have option to set in WU myself.
I am not sure how the License works if you do Clean Install before running the upgrade. I never really thought about it either.
GabeU It must be nice to have the Pro version. You have much more control over Windows. You shouldnt have a problem with system updates, isnt there an option to set not to download updates? Metered Connection does good, but I still would much rather have option to set in WU myself.
No. The only different option is that I can defer feature updates, but I can't control any other updates, save for setting it as metered when connected through Wi-Fi like you can with the non Pro version.
Well, I peformed the update on both my laptop and desktop, and so far everything is fine. The downloads went quickly, and the installation went as quickly as one would expect.
Glad to hear they are Installed and working with out issue. I installed it on my Nieces laptop and played around with it some, and installed it on my Moms laptop (I currently have it due to the charger port being broke AGAIN and needed to replace it so I figured I would install the update, since she dont know much about computers if there was a problem -- and she lives over 3 hours away). Both seam to be have no issues.
Now if I can just get it installed and working on my Laptop with is a pretty old system, originally Windows XP. I might try it on my Desktop also, I dont use the Desktop much myself currently its being used mainly by the kids for games with Windows 7 installed. I think all the games should work on Windows 10 now so I will probably see how the Creator Update is on there. (I assume I probably will have go through Windows 10 to install / upgrade to the Creators Update... and not just update from Windows 7).
I am amazed at how fast the Windows Software downloads. Before was lucky if it finished a Windows 10 download of 3+ GB in 4-5 hours. Now it finishes with in 1 hour or so (didnt exactly time it - but I know was fast)
Yep, it's fast, no doubt. For me, the download of the update took about ten minutes for each one, but then the installation itself took another forty five minutes or so for each one. Then, of course, I spent a while adjusting everything again and finding the new things to adjust. Plus, it downloaded new versions of all of the installed apps from the store.
Remember, too, that with your desktop having Windows 7, if you want to upgrade to Windows 10 you will have to pay for it. The free upgrade was only for a year after Windows 10 was released.
I'm just curious if anyone's done this, and if so, did you notice any problems afterward?
Did you notice any advantages to Windows 10 after installing this update?
If you know, how large was the update for you?
The Creators update downloaded automatically for me, and I have no idea how large it was, and it downloaded during the night, so I don't know how that went. Installing it took 4 hours.
I notice no differences between the way things were before and the way things are now; no advantages or disadvantages so far.
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I tried to update my Laptop which is an older computer (Dell Inspiron 1720). I downloaded it from Microsoft's website before the release (I am a Microsoft Insider - I was testing Windows 10 before the initial release -- Have not been doing much since the Release though) The upgrade did not work on my system. I was unable to connect to the internet at all. My WiFi adapter did not show any networks to connect to. My Ethernet adapter also did not connent when directly connected to the modem. I had to roll back to previous build which works perfectly.
I attempted doing a full clean install of Creators Update. I formatted my hard drive and Creators Update would not complete the install. I run it multiple times and it kept stopping at a certain percentage. I then had to reinstall an earlier build of Windows 10 and got my system back up to date after a week or so. Then the Creator Update came through in Windows Update. I figured they might have corrected my problem so I went ahead and downloaded it via WU. The problem still exists. I tried installing Network Adapter drivers from my external hard drive which did not work. Tried to use a USB WiFi adapter and was unable to get that to work either. I am currently back on previous build, I hope the update does not come back up in WU but I bet it will. I might give it another try in a few weeks to see if anything was fixed.
I have the ISO downloaded so I might try to update other systems.
If you download the update directly from Microsoft website 32 bit version is around 2.77 GB -- 64 bit is around 3.55 GB. I have both versions downloaded -- I have a few systems that I might be upgradeing that are 64 bit. I am not exactly sure what the Windows Update file size is. I would imagine it being the same since it is a full system update. (I would suggest downloading it from Microsoft's website if you want the upgrade -- So you can burn it to DVD or store on an external hard drive if you ever want / need to do a reinstall)
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A few things I have noticed and ran into...
This time around, the Creators Update (Windows Version 1703) didn't uninstall any of my programs, however, a few lost their registration, and had to be reactivated. Still annoying, but not as bad as before where programs had been fully removed and no notes left behind. I have only noticed this with a few programs, seems they may be storing registration information somewhere in the registry that is being overwrote during upgrades.
Some things I have noticed and have done...
-Went back into Settings > Privacy and checked to make sure all the settings I wanted applied, are still applied. A few changed, most didn't.
-Your default applications are reset back to default during the upgrade... Chrome set as default browser? You're going to have to tell Win10 under Settings > Apps what you want for defaults again.
-Noticed there's a new section in settings, \"Gaming\", went in and turned the \"Game Bar\" off as I don't need that annoying thing when gaming, and I also disabled \"Game Mode\"
-Wired connections can now be set to metered! Settings > Network & Internet > Status > Change Connection Properties > Set as metered connect
-Those that use natural daylight instead of 100w equivilent lightbulbs for their room lighting might find the Settings > System > Display > Nightlight option useful. It allows you to change the color tone of your screen so that it's not as stressful on your eyes being the only bright object in the room. Allowing for a more warm coloration, or cooler, depending on the options you chose under \"Night Light Settings\".
All of that aside, while writing this out and poking at things to make sure information was accurate, I noticed something... When looking at the \"Data Usage\" under network, I have used over 10TB in the last month! ROFL
Most of it was me backing things up, and poking around in my server... Next up was Chrome at 670GB, but that was me streaming from my server. lol
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The Metered option for Wired Connections is a nice added feature, which should have been added to the original version. I purchased a USB WiFi Adapter for my Desktop so I could run Windows 10 and be able to set it as Metered.
10+ TB WOW LOL. They need to add an option to set it External Usage Only.
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While I haven't yet done the upgrade I have done some research to ascertain when it is best for me to do the upgrade. You'll find the key results of that research in this post: Win10 Creators Update (v1703) considerations. I've decided to wait until the CBB (Current Branch for Business) version is released. I don't find enough of the new features compelling enough to be a beta tester for Microsoft.
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Thank you for the info, everyone. It's definitely helpful.
I think what I may do is upgrade my laptop, since it is not my main computer. I will also download the ISO, so if I decide I like 1703 I can do a clean install on the laptop, then see how that goes. If everything goes well and there are no significant problems, I will perform the update on my desktop, but not until then. And then, again, if everything goes well, the clean install. I don't have anything on either computer that isn't easy to download and install again, so that won't be a problem. Both my laptop and desktop have Windows 10 Pro 64 bit installed presently, so the ISO will work for the clean install on both, though I have to do the upgrade on each first so each one is digitally logged. I don't think a clean install of 1703 will activate with a digital license that is tied to 1607, so I have to upgrade first, then do the clean install later.
Again, I appreciate all of the info.
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I am not exactly sure what all is new in 1703, but I know there is a 3D Paint program. I did open it once to see what it was before I restored to previous Build the last time. I was not pleased with it, I only spent like 30 seconds in the program and closed it. I do like the Wired Connection being able to be set to Metered. Esp. with Gen5 getting SUPER FAST speeds over Wired Connection compared to WiFi. I keep the Setup files for all programs I have on my computer on my External / Second Hard Drive. So its not much of a deal for me to do Clean Installs. Theres some I dont keep which are programs that are constantly updated and will have to redownload anyway (like Adobe Flash Player, Firefox, Chrome ect.)
GabeU It must be nice to have the Pro version. You have much more control over Windows. You shouldnt have a problem with system updates, isnt there an option to set not to download updates? Metered Connection does good, but I still would much rather have option to set in WU myself.
I am not sure how the License works if you do Clean Install before running the upgrade. I never really thought about it either.
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GabeU It must be nice to have the Pro version. You have much more control over Windows. You shouldnt have a problem with system updates, isnt there an option to set not to download updates? Metered Connection does good, but I still would much rather have option to set in WU myself.
No. The only different option is that I can defer feature updates, but I can't control any other updates, save for setting it as metered when connected through Wi-Fi like you can with the non Pro version.
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Well, I peformed the update on both my laptop and desktop, and so far everything is fine. The downloads went quickly, and the installation went as quickly as one would expect.
So far, so good.
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Glad to hear they are Installed and working with out issue. I installed it on my Nieces laptop and played around with it some, and installed it on my Moms laptop (I currently have it due to the charger port being broke AGAIN and needed to replace it so I figured I would install the update, since she dont know much about computers if there was a problem -- and she lives over 3 hours away). Both seam to be have no issues.
Now if I can just get it installed and working on my Laptop with is a pretty old system, originally Windows XP. I might try it on my Desktop also, I dont use the Desktop much myself currently its being used mainly by the kids for games with Windows 7 installed. I think all the games should work on Windows 10 now so I will probably see how the Creator Update is on there. (I assume I probably will have go through Windows 10 to install / upgrade to the Creators Update... and not just update from Windows 7).
I am amazed at how fast the Windows Software downloads. Before was lucky if it finished a Windows 10 download of 3+ GB in 4-5 hours. Now it finishes with in 1 hour or so (didnt exactly time it - but I know was fast)
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Yep, it's fast, no doubt. For me, the download of the update took about ten minutes for each one, but then the installation itself took another forty five minutes or so for each one. Then, of course, I spent a while adjusting everything again and finding the new things to adjust. Plus, it downloaded new versions of all of the installed apps from the store.
Remember, too, that with your desktop having Windows 7, if you want to upgrade to Windows 10 you will have to pay for it. The free upgrade was only for a year after Windows 10 was released.
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I'm just curious if anyone's done this, and if so, did you notice any problems afterward?
Did you notice any advantages to Windows 10 after installing this update?
If you know, how large was the update for you?
The Creators update downloaded automatically for me, and I have no idea how large it was, and it downloaded during the night, so I don't know how that went. Installing it took 4 hours.
I notice no differences between the way things were before and the way things are now; no advantages or disadvantages so far.
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