Gen5 SmartBrowsing?

Thanks, Gabe, and check's in the mail for you too. :smileyvery-happy:

I'm always surprised that Windows updates are relatively small, because they take so many  hours to download. I don't understand why they're so slow to download (or why Edge is such a slow browser too -- what's with all the Windows slowness?). 

I'm not looking forward to the CU because I hear the privacy settings are going to only give two choices for settings: "Medium invasion of your privacy" OR "We see and know all."  They're taking away some of the choices and I'm not sure if there'll be a way to tweak this other than to use Linux. 

What I'm hoping is that Gen5 will give a better experience with those Windows updates.  Why they are so slow is very odd, and the only thing I can think of is the latency.  I notice that it does it with Malwarebytes, too.  It takes forever to do an update, though with Malwarebytes it's more that it takes forever to find the updates and start downloading them, but once it does do so it's relatively quick, whereas the Windows updates are just slow all around.  

As for the privacy settings...it's getting hairy, that's for sure.  Less and less control.  I understand we need them to keep our Windows product up to date, but it gets a little ridiculous when they want to know more and more about what we are doing, especially when it's a product that we paid for.  A freebie wanting to know things is one thing, as in we'll give this to you free if you let us record your habits, but when it's something we pay for it's a whole different ball game, even if we have to rely on them to keep that product up to date.  

Hopefully the techie folks out there will come up with tweaks like they have in the past, but I know Microsoft will do everything they can to keep that from happening.

And, like you mention, Linux is always an option.  With every subsequent version of whatever Linux distro one likes, it's becoming more and more user friendly, and better, as well.  

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maratsade wrote:

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GabeU wrote:

And hey, maratsade, we're Tutors now!  Yippee!!!  :mantongue:

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I just saw this! You totally have earned it.  In my case, I think I have proven my earlier comment that if I posted enough [inane] posts, I'd move up the ranks. And it happened! :smileyvery-happy: 

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Nah, you've earned it.  You've helped out a lot of folks on the new site (the old, too).  

As for the Creator's Update, I've read that it will be up to around 4GB, depending on what version of Windows 10 one has on their computer.  Not huge, but definitely large enough that there will be people that run into problems with data if they aren't aware of the update and prepare for it accordingly, which will happen, of course.

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GabeU wrote:

What I'm hoping is that Gen5 will give a better experience with those Windows updates.  Why they are so slow is very odd, and the only thing I can think of is the latency.  I notice that it does it with Malwarebytes, too.  It takes forever to do an update, though with Malwarebytes it's more that it takes forever to find the updates and start downloading them, but once it does do so it's relatively quick, whereas the Windows updates are just slow all around.  

 

As for the privacy settings...it's getting hairy, that's for sure.  Less and less control.  I understand we need them to keep our Windows product up to date, but it gets a little ridiculous when they want to know more and more about what we are doing, especially when it's a product that we paid for.  A freebie wanting to know things is one thing, as in we'll give this to you free if you let us record your habits, but when it's something we pay for it's a whole different ball game, even if we have to rely on them to keep that product up to date.  

 

Hopefully the techie folks out there will come up with tweaks like they have in the past, but I know Microsoft will do everything they can to keep that from happening.

  

And, like you mention, Linux is always an option.  With every subsequent version of whatever Linux distro one likes, it's becoming more and more user friendly, and better, as well.  

 

 

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I find the updates are slow to download no matter the speed. In my experience, even with a superfast, Star Trek style connection, they can take 3 hours. There must be something else besides the latency, or they'd be a flash when done through a cable or another fast connection. 

I also don't like Windows snooping into everything, and even though everyone pretty much does, it doesn't make it right, especially when like you say we're paying for this stuff.  If we pay, we should have a bit more control.  

I  imagine Windows is very prepared to deflect the tweaks that might happen.  It might backfire eventually, if people move to other platforms.  I love Linux and it's getting better and better with time, both in looks and functionality, plus it always comes across as a labor of love and not a shrine for greed, and this makes it even more likeable. 

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maratsade wrote: 

I find the updates are slow to download no matter the speed.  

 

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No doubt.  I had updates a while back that took over 24 hours for something like 700MB (Glasswire's tally).  I don't remember the exact amount.  At the same time I was getting speeds in the uppper 20s.  It's ridiculous.  Lately it's seems to be a little better, though recent updates on one computer did take a considerable amount of time.  I waited until a few days later to update the other one, with the same W10 version and updates, and it was very quick, as was my notebook with W8.1.  

I don't know if it's that the servers are more sensitive to the latency of satellite internet when they are very busy, as in right after updates are released, and are less sensitive when they aren't as busy, as in a few days later.  At this point, I'm beginning to think anything is possible.  It may even be caused by the speed not being smooth, too.  I've seen tests on testmy.net where I have great speed, but the graph looks like a mountain range rather than a horizon.      

I don't know if having Gen5 will make any difference.  If it is caused by latency, it won't.  If it's caused by the service/speed not being smooth, it might, as Gen5 will probably be a smoother service with there being less people on at the beginning.