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11 years ago

Please read first before agreeing

I recently logged into the HughsNet customer service sight in my system controller. When I queried "View my Bills" I received the prompt "We are moving to a New Login Process. Complete the quick registration and you will be able to login to your HughesNet account with your existing Google, Windows Live, AOL or Hughes.net account." Under the 'Register Now' it states that you may still log in the old way, but using my old password did not work for me (although interestingly it is the one I used to login here), so I began the registration process. In this registration process the first thing they have you do is sign an "Agreement". Please read carefully the "Terms of Agreement". Unfortunately it is 30 pages long with 23 components. You basically have few if any rights in this agreement. Again I repeat, please read it. They reserve the right to control everything including your internet content and even email messages. Plus they can change the agreement anytime they want, sell it to someone else and charge you outrageous fees for service. They even require you to pay for the return of their equipment after your 24 months of loyalty. I refused to sign it which meant of course I couldn't move on in their registration process, and of course I therefore can't look at my billing statements. Just another HughesNet ripoff. I'm just hoping the FCC shuts them down, they get run out of town by some legitimate competitor or some class action suit buries them.

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I truly wish I could say \"ditto\". Unfortunately I have been with them for only 4 months and find nothing positive that I can say about the experience. I can't stream videos, they have arbitrarily added extra charges to my monthly bill that I never asked for and now I can't even read my monthly bills without first signing over my first born.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-01-14T18:06:00.000-05:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-01-14T18:06:00.000-05:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":6167},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:HNSupport/community:ssqng67387board:AccountandBilling/message:17047/message:17050","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":true,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"373","rawBody":"Thanks for the comment Janice. I truly wish I could say \"ditto\". Unfortunately I have been with them for only 4 months and find nothing positive that I can say about the experience. 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I've tried talking to them in the past with very little satisfaction. 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I've tried talking to them in the past with very little satisfaction. 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