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An exit command in crosh literally closes it The browser window disappears, haha. I found guidance on the net that a shell command in crosh will take you to the root linux shell, so I tried that, but it returned 'unknown command.' I dunno,I give up for now. I will eventualy have a chance to bring a windows laptop to this location. I will have the chromebook at a place with cable internet service later next week, and I'll try pinging and tracepathing there, just to see what happens. ... View more

I tired typed 'su' and it returned as 'unkown command." ... View more

MarkjFine, you said, "If you can ping to any of those hop locations manually," don't know for sure if this is what you mean, but I tried this:   My second hop was host977219357.direpc.com. I tried a ping command to that, then I tried 977219357direpc.com, and finally I tried just direpc.com. All three returned with 'name or service not known.' I also tried a tracepath command with all three of those, same result.   I guess my first problem is nobody in the conversation knows for certain how to do a traceroute with a chromebook. What I found via googling is that tracepath is how you do a traceroute on a chromebook, but I have no expertise to know if that's right, and applies to what we are using it for.  ... View more

MarkjFine, So one doesn't add up the ms values on each hop to determine one's total round-trip latency? But rather, the ms value at far right on each of those lines (i.e. 1471.185ms on the third hop 3 line) reperesents a total round trip latency?   When I do a ping command, I get ms numbers on the right of each line in the 600-900 range, which seems more expected. Does that indicate that those 1-1.5 sec. values on each line after a tracepath command are probably not accurate? Or is the ping command not  accurate?   When you talk of the possibility of a network compatibility problem, what networks are you talking about? I'm a guy in central florida using my Hughes service to ping amazon.com, why would any of the networks used to execute that very common route for me have incompatibility issues?     ... View more

and I get it, 600-700 is normal latency for sat and there's no way around that. I'm just looking to diagnose or understand why I sometimes experience slow or erratic performance, and yet my mbps download speeds are the same as when the performance is normal. So I wanted to figure out how to check latency the next time it happens, to see if that explains it. ... View more

Sounds like you're saying that if my latency is high, the odds of it being a problem with Hughes is very tiny? Are there any other variables? I know there are variables on my end, I mean otherwise. I know that periods of high traffic can affect performance, but I assume that's reflected in the mbps number when I do a download test. ... View more

My initial tracepath attempts were for netflix and google, which didn't work. I decided to try again with amazon.com, and it seemed to work -- screenshot is below. I have no idea how to read the information. How do I read the latency in Hughes's piece of the chain, and what's a normal value for the their piece? What would be an unacceptably high value for their piece? There are times (not right now) when even simple browsing for me on Hughes seems very slow. Or maybe more accurately, it seems erratic. One minute it's doing well, a minute later it's crawling, then suddenly it's better again -- but when I check mbps, it's reasonable. The other variable besides mbps that I'm aware of is latency, so I just want to be able to diagnose when I'm getting slow performance by also checking latency. Or more specifically Hughes's latency, since that's the piece of the chain I'm paying for. ... View more

Is there any relationship between speed and latency? I ask because I'm wondering if checking latency is a shortcut way to check if you are having bandwidth/speed problems. Doing this test is so much quicker and easier than running a speed test on testmy.net, for instance. ... View more

Thanks! I just ran it comparing wifi to ethernet cord.Virtually no pings above 700 with ethernet cord. Cutting out the wifi seems to shorten the delay by somewhere around 30-70 ms. ... View more

Found a video that said to use 'ping' as the command on a chromebook. It just keeps pinging until you stop it, here's the results. Looks like I'm getting mostly in the 650-700 ms range with sometimes wider variation. Is that normal? ... View more

I'm back. I didn't send the whole screen because it was just like 30 lines of no reply that ended with: Too many hops: pmtu 1500 Resume: pmtu 1500 -- and then a new command line, so I screenshot what I thought was the relevant part at the top. Tracepath seems to be the correct command. Like everything else on a chromebook, the terminal is also via the browser, maybe that's why the difference. I have ublock and https everywhere on the browser, but turned them off. I have installed nothing extra in the way of firewalls on my chromebook or its browser (other than the things I mentioned, which were turned off) or on the Hughes HT2000W wifi router. The router is connected via cable to the Hughes dish outside, and that's all folks.   I shut down the chromebook and router and let them cool. I hooked into the router via ethernet cord and ran the test again, and was running on the chromebook's battery -- not plugged into a power source. Same results.     ... View more

Finally realized I needed to use the insertion tool here instead of copy/pasting! What a dingdong I am, trying to focus on too many things at once. So here's those tracepath results. One for Netflix and one for Google. ... View more

I've tried everything I can think of to paste a screenshot here, and googled for solutions, and came up with nothing. What the hey is going on? ... View more

Ughh, I can't figure out how to paste a screenshot here. I can copy a screenshot to clipboard and then paste (ctrl+v) it into a google doc no problem, but when I try to paste into this message window, nothing happens. ... View more

haha, I wrote my last response before I saw yours explaining about chromebook, you're quick! ... View more

Ok, I discovered that for chromebook, the command is tracepath instead of tracert. That worked, and I got results, but I don't know how to read them, and I don't see any guidance on that link you provided about how to read the results. And what is the typical amount of latency for Hughes? ... View more

I'm using a chromebook, I googled 'how to get a command line on a chromebook (ctrl+alt +t does it). Going by the instructions on the link you provided, I typed: tracert netflix.com. Also tried: tracert google.com. In both cases the message back was: ERROR: unknown command: tracert. What am I doing wrong? I'm doing this via wifi, but I'm very close to the hughes HT2000 wifi router. Does it matter if I'm on wifi vs. ethernet cord? ... View more