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In New York city once there was a long outage, and people were having parties and sharing ice cream, making hamburgers and steaks, etc., having one big block party. It was pretty awesome. I think if people just let others know their power is down and they have fully loaded fridges and freezers, parties could be organized to eat all the food before it rots.
Oooooh... I remember two big NYC blackouts: The first was 1965? We were living in an apartment complex in South Queens that had their own power generation. It was awesome to look out the window and see darkness all the way to JFK.
The second I would have to say was 1977, because it was in that ESPN Yankees doc. Dunno about cookouts, but there was a lot of looting that night. I just remember it because I was on my way to see Todd Rundgren at the Asbury Park Convention Center, and there were zero NYC FM radio stations on the air.
I think the one I remember was the one in the 70s, and yes, there was a lot of looting, but also oddly, a lot of community spirit. I was in Manhattan at the time, and the cookouts were surreal but also very cool. And yes, seeing NYC without lights was also surreal.
Edit: I also remember a big outage in the early 2000s. 2003??
We got VERY lucky during the 2003 Northeast Blackout. We were one of the few areas that was not affected. :) There were folks less than three miles from here that had no power for nearly two days.
We got VERY lucky during the 2003 Northeast Blackout. We were one of the few areas that was not affected. :) There were folks less than three miles from here that had no power for nearly two days.
I wish that were the case. Because of living on the side of a large ridge that faces Lake Erie, which is about ten miles away, we get hammered with wind storms and terrible lake effect snow. Our power goes out, on average, about four or five times a year. It's not usually out for more than a few hours, but it's very annoying, especially when it happens during extremely cold or or horridly hot weather.
My folks are lucky in that they have a floor furnace in their living room. It doesn't need power, so they still have heat, and the thermostat is a millivolt thermostat, running off of power generated by a thermopile unit over the pilot on the furnace. Me, OTOH... I end up using my oven and stove, but if it lasts more than an hour or so I turn them off because of the carbon monoxide danger and break out the kerosene heater. It works, but for my little house it's overkill, and I have to open windows to regulate the temperature, lest it get to the 80s or 90s in here, even when it's -10F outside. I'm going to be getting one of those propane Buddy heaters this fall. That will be better.
I think I vaguely remember that one because of Gulf II... I think that was supposedly caused by the load being too high on account of being a real hot day, made more complicated by a solar flare that impacted the way the grid switched.
Edit: Almost got it right. Software glitch, not a solar flare.
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Oooooh... I remember two big NYC blackouts: The first was 1965? We were living in an apartment complex in South Queens that had their own power generation. It was awesome to look out the window and see darkness all the way to JFK.
The second I would have to say was 1977, because it was in that ESPN Yankees doc. Dunno about cookouts, but there was a lot of looting that night. I just remember it because I was on my way to see Todd Rundgren at the Asbury Park Convention Center, and there were zero NYC FM radio stations on the air.
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Oooooh... I remember two big NYC blackouts: The first was 1965? We were living in an apartment complex in South Queens that had their own power generation. It was awesome to look out the window and see darkness all the way to JFK.
The second I would have to say was 1977, because it was in that ESPN Yankees doc. Dunno about cookouts, but there was a lot of looting that night. I just remember it because I was on my way to see Todd Rundgren at the Asbury Park Convention Center, and there were zero NYC FM radio stations on the air.
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In New York city once there was a long outage, and people were having parties and sharing ice cream, making hamburgers and steaks, etc., having one big block party. It was pretty awesome. I think if people just let others know their power is down and they have fully loaded fridges and freezers, parties could be organized to eat all the food before it rots.
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In New York city once there was a long outage, and people were having parties and sharing ice cream, making hamburgers and steaks, etc., having one big block party. It was pretty awesome. I think if people just let others know their power is down and they have fully loaded fridges and freezers, parties could be organized to eat all the food before it rots.
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I think the one I remember was the one in the 70s, and yes, there was a lot of looting, but also oddly, a lot of community spirit. I was in Manhattan at the time, and the cookouts were surreal but also very cool. And yes, seeing NYC without lights was also surreal.
Edit: I also remember a big outage in the early 2000s. 2003??
I think the one I remember was the one in the 70s, and yes, there was a lot of looting, but also oddly, a lot of community spirit. I was in Manhattan at the time, and the cookouts were surreal but also very cool. And yes, seeing NYC without lights was also surreal.
Edit: I also remember a big outage in the early 2000s. 2003??
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We got VERY lucky during the 2003 Northeast Blackout. We were one of the few areas that was not affected. :) There were folks less than three miles from here that had no power for nearly two days.
We got VERY lucky during the 2003 Northeast Blackout. We were one of the few areas that was not affected. :) There were folks less than three miles from here that had no power for nearly two days.
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We got VERY lucky during the 2003 Northeast Blackout. We were one of the few areas that was not affected. :) There were folks less than three miles from here that had no power for nearly two days.
We got VERY lucky during the 2003 Northeast Blackout. We were one of the few areas that was not affected. :) There were folks less than three miles from here that had no power for nearly two days.
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I wish that were the case. Because of living on the side of a large ridge that faces Lake Erie, which is about ten miles away, we get hammered with wind storms and terrible lake effect snow. Our power goes out, on average, about four or five times a year. It's not usually out for more than a few hours, but it's very annoying, especially when it happens during extremely cold or or horridly hot weather.
My folks are lucky in that they have a floor furnace in their living room. It doesn't need power, so they still have heat, and the thermostat is a millivolt thermostat, running off of power generated by a thermopile unit over the pilot on the furnace. Me, OTOH... I end up using my oven and stove, but if it lasts more than an hour or so I turn them off because of the carbon monoxide danger and break out the kerosene heater. It works, but for my little house it's overkill, and I have to open windows to regulate the temperature, lest it get to the 80s or 90s in here, even when it's -10F outside. I'm going to be getting one of those propane Buddy heaters this fall. That will be better.
I wish that were the case. Because of living on the side of a large ridge that faces Lake Erie, which is about ten miles away, we get hammered with wind storms and terrible lake effect snow. Our power goes out, on average, about four or five times a year. It's not usually out for more than a few hours, but it's very annoying, especially when it happens during extremely cold or or horridly hot weather.
My folks are lucky in that they have a floor furnace in their living room. It doesn't need power, so they still have heat, and the thermostat is a millivolt thermostat, running off of power generated by a thermopile unit over the pilot on the furnace. Me, OTOH... I end up using my oven and stove, but if it lasts more than an hour or so I turn them off because of the carbon monoxide danger and break out the kerosene heater. It works, but for my little house it's overkill, and I have to open windows to regulate the temperature, lest it get to the 80s or 90s in here, even when it's -10F outside. I'm going to be getting one of those propane Buddy heaters this fall. That will be better.
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I think I vaguely remember that one because of Gulf II... I think that was supposedly caused by the load being too high on account of being a real hot day, made more complicated by a solar flare that impacted the way the grid switched.
Edit: Almost got it right. Software glitch, not a solar flare.
I think I vaguely remember that one because of Gulf II... I think that was supposedly caused by the load being too high on account of being a real hot day, made more complicated by a solar flare that impacted the way the grid switched.
Edit: Almost got it right. Software glitch, not a solar flare.
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