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poor lamb

  I ran into a acquaintance of mine at a local tavern the other day.  He was very excited to tell me that he just had satellite internet installed, and was going to get Netflix, and would also be abl...
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  I ran into a acquaintance of mine at a local tavern the other day.  He was very excited to tell me that he just had satellite internet installed, and was going to get Netflix, and would also be able to do away with his satellite TV bill, all for only fifty bucks a month.

 

  I asked him what tech company he used and he said: \"I don't remember the name.  They're across from the BBQ place.\" ( 20 miles away )  They're not the company I use.  Mine is reliable and honest.  His told him that all of this stuff was going to be easy.

 

  I asked him what satellite company he was with, and he replied: \"I don't know.  I think it's written on the dish somewhere.\"   When I asked him how many gigs of data was in his plan, he didn't know the answer to that either   I said to him, before you do anything like this again, please come and talk to me first.

 

 Like a lamb to the slaughter.

 

  I smell a soon to be broken contract. :>)>  If so, it will be second that I know of in my tiny little community, in just the last few months.

 

\"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot.\"
ROBERT HEINLEIN

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MarkJFine wrote:

Cancellng cards or any refusal to pay will also put them into 'collections' and usually results in a bad mark in one's credit rating.


   That seems to be the general consensus.  But does anyone actually know anyone to who this actually happened?

I know one person who didn't pay the ETF, and  had no repercussions. 

 

  I wouldn't be suprised, with so much deceptive marketing going on, that so many people are canceling satellite ISP contracts without paying an ETF, that the lenders are just ignoring it.  Similar to 40 years ago when medical labs and xray places would collect from your insurance, and then try to collect the full amount from you also. 

 

  I actually had fun when a collection agency would call, after talking to me one time they wouldn't call back again.  Especially, after talking to my Credit Union who told me:  \" Oh, we know that stuff is going on.  We won't even consider it when looking at your credit.\"

 

 Of course, at lot of things have changed in the last 40 years. 

 

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 wrote:

Cancellng cards or any refusal to pay will also put them into 'collections' and usually results in a bad mark in one's credit rating.


   That seems to be the general consensus.  But does anyone actually know anyone to who this actually happened?

I know one person who didn't pay the ETF, and  had no repercussions. 

 

  I wouldn't be suprised, with so much deceptive marketing going on, that so many people are canceling satellite ISP contracts without paying an ETF, that the lenders are just ignoring it.  Similar to 40 years ago when medical labs and xray places would collect from your insurance, and then try to collect the full amount from you also. 

 

  I actually had fun when a collection agency would call, after talking to me one time they wouldn't call back again.  Especially, after talking to my Credit Union who told me:  \" Oh, we know that stuff is going on.  We won't even consider it when looking at your credit.\"

 

 Of course, at lot of things have changed in the last 40 years. 

 

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Cancellng cards or any refusal to pay will also put them into 'collections' and usually results in a bad mark in one's credit rating.

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Cancellng cards or any refusal to pay will also put them into 'collections' and usually results in a bad mark in one's credit rating.

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gaines_wright wrote:

I wouldn't be suprised, with so much deceptive marketing going on, that so many people are canceling satellite ISP contracts without paying an ETF, that the lenders are just ignoring it.   

Neither lenders, nor credit rating agencies, ignore someone having a debt placed into collections.  As well, neither cares what the debt collection is for.  When it's present it affects, and will continue to do so for quite some time.  Unless someone has a legitimate excuse and successfully fights to have it removed from the record, which is both time consuming and emotionally draining, it affects their credit for years.

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 wrote:

I wouldn't be suprised, with so much deceptive marketing going on, that so many people are canceling satellite ISP contracts without paying an ETF, that the lenders are just ignoring it.   

Neither lenders, nor credit rating agencies, ignore someone having a debt placed into collections.  As well, neither cares what the debt collection is for.  When it's present it affects, and will continue to do so for quite some time.  Unless someone has a legitimate excuse and successfully fights to have it removed from the record, which is both time consuming and emotionally draining, it affects their credit for years.

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GabeU wrote:

gaines_wright wrote:

I wouldn't be suprised, with so much deceptive marketing going on, that so many people are canceling satellite ISP contracts without paying an ETF, that the lenders are just ignoring it.   

Neither lenders, nor credit rating agencies, ignore someone having a debt placed into collections.  As well, neither cares what the debt collection is for.  When it's present it affects, and will continue to do so for quite some time.  Unless someone has a legitimate excuse and successfully fights to have it removed from the record, which is both time consuming and emotionally draining, it affects their credit for years.


    No offence intended, but do you have any first hand experience with this happening?  You seem so sure about it. 

 

  I certainly didn't find it so.forty years ago,  when lenders, looked at the details of the causes of a bad credit rating, and acted accordingly.  At least my lender did with my credit rating, which at the time the collection agencies were doing their best to try to destroy.  I financed a new truck at that time with no problems.

 

  All this makes me want to cancel Hughes, not pay the ETF, and then finance a new truck.  :>)>  Just kidding.

 

 Anybody want to bet that I wouldn't be successful?

 

 I'm suprised no one caught the original point of my post, which is that satellite ISPs are using predatory and misleading tactics to lure in new suscribers, and then they the hold the boogie man of an ETF over their heads to try to keep them.

 

  IMO this is not wise marketing, and I don't think it's going to be successful in the long run   I know one person who didn't pay the Hughes ETF with no repercussions.  I await the result of poor lamb doing the same with Viasat.

 

 

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 wrote:

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I wouldn't be suprised, with so much deceptive marketing going on, that so many people are canceling satellite ISP contracts without paying an ETF, that the lenders are just ignoring it.   

Neither lenders, nor credit rating agencies, ignore someone having a debt placed into collections.  As well, neither cares what the debt collection is for.  When it's present it affects, and will continue to do so for quite some time.  Unless someone has a legitimate excuse and successfully fights to have it removed from the record, which is both time consuming and emotionally draining, it affects their credit for years.


    No offence intended, but do you have any first hand experience with this happening?  You seem so sure about it. 

 

  I certainly didn't find it so.forty years ago,  when lenders, looked at the details of the causes of a bad credit rating, and acted accordingly.  At least my lender did with my credit rating, which at the time the collection agencies were doing their best to try to destroy.  I financed a new truck at that time with no problems.

 

  All this makes me want to cancel Hughes, not pay the ETF, and then finance a new truck.  :>)>  Just kidding.

 

 Anybody want to bet that I wouldn't be successful?

 

 I'm suprised no one caught the original point of my post, which is that satellite ISPs are using predatory and misleading tactics to lure in new suscribers, and then they the hold the boogie man of an ETF over their heads to try to keep them.

 

  IMO this is not wise marketing, and I don't think it's going to be successful in the long run   I know one person who didn't pay the Hughes ETF with no repercussions.  I await the result of poor lamb doing the same with Viasat.

 

 

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