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Power failures

  I've been reading here about a some peoples problems with power failures, so I thought I'd post the method I used during the many power failures I had before I got a whole house generator.     I ...
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  I've been reading here about a some peoples problems with power failures, so I thought I'd post the method I used during the many power failures I had before I got a whole house generator.

 

  I had a portable generator with enough capacity to run my lights and ceiling fans, fridge, freezer, microwave, toaster oven, well pump, and one small window AC. An easy way to do this is to buy a generator with enough capacity to have a dryer receptacle. Then you construct a cable with 10/4 portable cord with a male dryer plug at each end.

 

  During a power failure you turn off the following breakers: main, dryer, water heater, central heat & AC, stove, water pump, and any other large loads. Plug one end of the temporary cord into the generator before it's started, run the other end of the cord into the laundry area and plug it into the dryer receptacle, start the generator, and close the main on the generator.

 

  Then you close the dryer breaker at the main panel. If you have done every thing correctly you now have power to all the essentials, without having to run extension cords all over the place.

 

  Keep in mind that you've only got about 30 amps available, and the more stuff you have powered on, the faster the generator will run out of fuel. Never turn on the central heat & AC breakers, as this would probably immediately trip the generator. Don't use more than one burner or the oven on the stove, unless you turn off the water heater, well pump breakers, and the window unit AC. IOW you have to actively manage the loads.

 

  To test if the utility power has returned you only have to open the dryer breaker, and close the main. Make absolutely sure that both breakers are never closed at the same time until the generator is disconnected. With the newer electric meters, this test is not necessary. you can just look at the LC display on the meter. If it's back on, you have power.

 

  If the power has returned, open the dryer breaker, and close the main and any other open breakers, shut down the generator and remove the temporary cable, plug the dryer back in, and then close the dryer breaker at the main panel.

  Simple yes? I got so tired of doing the this in the middle of the night by flashlight, that after my portable generator was stolen, and I had gone through a 38 hour outage without it, I had a whole house generator installed. Expensive, but I was getting too old to stumble around in the dark with a flashlight anyway. It also has the advantage of using propane for fuel, and it came with a 250 gal tank.

 

  The generator was installed three months ago, and we haven't had a power failure since. Just a few glitches that didn't last long enough for it to even start its warm up cycle.

 

  See, my expensive new generator is working very well! :>)>

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alfresco wrote:

My nieghbor, who's a retired electrician has an extension cord hooked up to a sub panel in his garage looks a little hokey but I guess it works.

  I did the same thing, until a friend of mine suggested that I hook a dryer receptacle to the subpanel out in the pole barn where the generator was located.  I didn't have enough spare breakers to leave the generator hooked up all of the time, and I didn't like the idea of the generator being connected with the flick of a switch anyway, IMO the dryer receptacle made everything a lot easier and safer.

 

  Waist deep snow?  Our problem has been the heat.  We just had over a week of near or over 90 degree temperatures.  In the middle of February!

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 wrote:

My nieghbor, who's a retired electrician has an extension cord hooked up to a sub panel in his garage looks a little hokey but I guess it works.

  I did the same thing, until a friend of mine suggested that I hook a dryer receptacle to the subpanel out in the pole barn where the generator was located.  I didn't have enough spare breakers to leave the generator hooked up all of the time, and I didn't like the idea of the generator being connected with the flick of a switch anyway, IMO the dryer receptacle made everything a lot easier and safer.

 

  Waist deep snow?  Our problem has been the heat.  We just had over a week of near or over 90 degree temperatures.  In the middle of February!

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My nieghbor, who's a retired electrician has an extension cord hooked up to a sub panel in his garage looks a little hokey but I guess it works. Me and another nieghbor went over and dug his car out, helped him start his generator, i had to  wade through waist deep snow from the street to the side of his house to shut off his main. He's disabled and on oxygen. he left for warmer climates until this  latest storm blows over.

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My nieghbor, who's a retired electrician has an extension cord hooked up to a sub panel in his garage looks a little hokey but I guess it works. Me and another nieghbor went over and dug his car out, helped him start his generator, i had to  wade through waist deep snow from the street to the side of his house to shut off his main. He's disabled and on oxygen. he left for warmer climates until this  latest storm blows over.

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90? yikes, and high humidity no doubt. I prefer the cold.

I'm going to look in to getting a whole house generator, it looks like this summer we're going to have a lot of blackouts.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/fires/article225626075.html

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90? yikes, and high humidity no doubt. I prefer the cold.

I'm going to look in to getting a whole house generator, it looks like this summer we're going to have a lot of blackouts.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/fires/article225626075.html

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alfresco wrote:

90? yikes, and high humidity no doubt. I prefer the cold.

I'm going to look in to getting a whole house generator, it looks like this summer we're going to have a lot of blackouts.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/fires/article225626075.html


Over the last couple of weeks I must have seen this one Generac commercial a dozen times.  I hadn't seen one in months, but this must be the time when people are starting to think about them more.  

 

My brother has one at his house and loves it.  I get free natural gas where I live due to a deal that was made with the gas company for running a main across the property.  We have two gas wells within a very short distance of here (about 300 feet and 1500 feet), and the more distant one has the main running right under my front lawn.  If I had one of those generators in natural gas I'd be doing just dandy if the power went out.  Plus, with my house being very small and only needing a 10MBH window AC, I'd have no problem running everything off of a smaller one.  

 

One of these days, perhaps.  Until then I'll be roughing it.  :p  

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 wrote:

90? yikes, and high humidity no doubt. I prefer the cold.

I'm going to look in to getting a whole house generator, it looks like this summer we're going to have a lot of blackouts.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/fires/article225626075.html


Over the last couple of weeks I must have seen this one Generac commercial a dozen times.  I hadn't seen one in months, but this must be the time when people are starting to think about them more.  

 

My brother has one at his house and loves it.  I get free natural gas where I live due to a deal that was made with the gas company for running a main across the property.  We have two gas wells within a very short distance of here (about 300 feet and 1500 feet), and the more distant one has the main running right under my front lawn.  If I had one of those generators in natural gas I'd be doing just dandy if the power went out.  Plus, with my house being very small and only needing a 10MBH window AC, I'd have no problem running everything off of a smaller one.  

 

One of these days, perhaps.  Until then I'll be roughing it.  :p  

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Free gas that's awesome. My wifes uncle has the same deal with the water company.

I'll  probably be roughing it for quite a while it's hard to get service people to even come out here also the cost may be to rich for my blood ;).

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Free gas that's awesome. My wifes uncle has the same deal with the water company.

I'll  probably be roughing it for quite a while it's hard to get service people to even come out here also the cost may be to rich for my blood ;).

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alfresco wrote:

I'm going to look in to getting a whole house generator, it looks like this summer we're going to have a lot of blackouts.

 

  They are expensive, especially if you do as I did, and get one big enough to run your central AC.  I contacted Generac and they reccomended a local contractor.  The final bill was $11,243.00, including the generator, installation, and a 250 gal propane containing 200 gal of propane.     

 

 

 

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 wrote:

I'm going to look in to getting a whole house generator, it looks like this summer we're going to have a lot of blackouts.

 

  They are expensive, especially if you do as I did, and get one big enough to run your central AC.  I contacted Generac and they reccomended a local contractor.  The final bill was $11,243.00, including the generator, installation, and a 250 gal propane containing 200 gal of propane.     

 

 

 

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Good info; I've bookmarked the post for future reference. 

 

gaines_wright wrote:

 

  They are expensive, especially if you do as I did, and get one big enough to run your central AC.  I contacted Generac and they reccomended a local contractor.  The final bill was $11,243.00, including the generator, installation, and a 250 gal propane containing 200 gal of propane.     

 

 

 


 

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Good info; I've bookmarked the post for future reference. 

 

gaines_wright wrote:

 

  They are expensive, especially if you do as I did, and get one big enough to run your central AC.  I contacted Generac and they reccomended a local contractor.  The final bill was $11,243.00, including the generator, installation, and a 250 gal propane containing 200 gal of propane.     

 

 

 


 

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