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I find that the HT2000w router I received today is running Linux.   Linux version 3.3.8 (bruce_ma@debian-wheezy-i386) (gcc version 4.6.3 20120201 (prerelease) (Linaro GCC 4.6-2012.02) ) #1 Fri May ...
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I find that the HT2000w router I received today is running Linux.

 

Linux version 3.3.8 (bruce_ma@debian-wheezy-i386) (gcc version 4.6.3 20120201 (prerelease) (Linaro GCC 4.6-2012.02) ) #1 Fri May 5 05:26:51 UTC 2017
Jan 1 00:00:08 (none) kern.notice kernel: klogd started: BusyBox v1.18.5 (2017-05-05 05:04:25 UTC)

 

But do not see any offer to provide, or link providing access to, the source code, nor any statement that GPL license software is in use.

 

For your reference: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html -> \"if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that you have. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights\"

 

I'd like to be provided access to the source code.  Thank you.

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sozoridge wrote: 

As should be obvious, requesting access to the source code does not construe an intent to modify the unit.  


Then what is the point in asking for it?  

 

I can see three reasons.  1.  To modify the unit.  2.  To attempt to modify a 3rd party unit, or your own, to work with the service.  3.  A right fight due to being dismayed with the service, as in, \"I'm angry, so I'm going to get them in some way.\"  

 

With that said, maybe I'm just not seeing something.  

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sozoridge wrote: 

As should be obvious, requesting access to the source code does not construe an intent to modify the unit.  


Then what is the point in asking for it?  

 

I can see three reasons.  1.  To modify the unit.  2.  To attempt to modify a 3rd party unit, or your own, to work with the service.  3.  A right fight due to being dismayed with the service, as in, \"I'm angry, so I'm going to get them in some way.\"  

 

With that said, maybe I'm just not seeing something.  

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Liz, Amanda, please forward my request to the appropriate party.

 

To the other commentors, I don't know what Hughesnet provides you all to add such pointless noise in an attempt to spin the focus of a thread, but its mildly annoying, and in this case they are rather uninformed responses.  Or if I give you the benefit of the doubt, and your statements indicate a deeper knowledge that you have, that the modem itself is running on Linux, then that is of great interest as well.

 

But in attempt to help you understand. Your quotes of \"software used in the modem\" and \"modem firmware\" is misleading - No, it is not the modem software/firmware in question, but rather the software used in the router, which is distinct and separate.  The HT2000w has two pcb boards - one for the modem, one for the router.  The router comes from Arcadyan, as can be found in the eff-cee-cee filing for the wireless router.

 

As should be obvious, requesting access to the source code does not construe an intent to modify the unit.  And no, there are no special exceptions that allow a company to distribute Linux without providing access to the source code; Linux has no dual licensing.  So as much as you all want to step up and somehow, in your perception, \"protect\" Hughesnet for whatever misguided reasons, in this case your statements add no value to this thread.

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, , please forward my request to the appropriate party.

 

To the other commentors, I don't know what Hughesnet provides you all to add such pointless noise in an attempt to spin the focus of a thread, but its mildly annoying, and in this case they are rather uninformed responses.  Or if I give you the benefit of the doubt, and your statements indicate a deeper knowledge that you have, that the modem itself is running on Linux, then that is of great interest as well.

 

But in attempt to help you understand. Your quotes of \"software used in the modem\" and \"modem firmware\" is misleading - No, it is not the modem software/firmware in question, but rather the software used in the router, which is distinct and separate.  The HT2000w has two pcb boards - one for the modem, one for the router.  The router comes from Arcadyan, as can be found in the eff-cee-cee filing for the wireless router.

 

As should be obvious, requesting access to the source code does not construe an intent to modify the unit.  And no, there are no special exceptions that allow a company to distribute Linux without providing access to the source code; Linux has no dual licensing.  So as much as you all want to step up and somehow, in your perception, \"protect\" Hughesnet for whatever misguided reasons, in this case your statements add no value to this thread.

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Last response...
I could care less if there is a difference between the \"modem\" and \"router\", you will get the same response that Jezra did.

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Last response...
I could care less if there is a difference between the \"modem\" and \"router\", you will get the same response that Jezra did.

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C0RR0SIVE wrote:




\n

Good morning sozoridge,

\n

 

\n

Amanda's response from back then still applies now. 

\n

 

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wrote:




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Good morning sozoridge,

\n

 

\n

Amanda's response from back then still applies now. 

\n

 

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Hi Liz

 

I think your response may have been colored by the oddly aggressive posts by the other forum members.

 

As you can see in that old quoted thread, it was asking a wholly different question unrelated to this one.

 

The router of this modem *is* running Linux with Busybox.  Both of which are under the GPL v2 license.  It is not a question of what OS the modem's router is running.  That is already clearly available from the modem's syslog as I quoted in the original post.

 

For your reference:

 

https://busybox.net/license.html#enforce

https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/kernel-enforcement-statement.html

 

Please do pass this on up your support channels.

 

Thank you.

 

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Hi

 

I think your response may have been colored by the oddly aggressive posts by the other forum members.

 

As you can see in that old quoted thread, it was asking a wholly different question unrelated to this one.

 

The router of this modem *is* running Linux with Busybox.  Both of which are under the GPL v2 license.  It is not a question of what OS the modem's router is running.  That is already clearly available from the modem's syslog as I quoted in the original post.

 

For your reference:

 

https://busybox.net/license.html#enforce

https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/kernel-enforcement-statement.html

 

Please do pass this on up your support channels.

 

Thank you.

 

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It piques the curiosity to why the responders of this thread have such a vested interest.

 

Why I want the Linux source is irrelevant, it is my legal right, along with every other person that has received one of these modems, and requires no explanation.  Whether it is running on one PCB or another is irrelevant.  The 3 year old quoted thread regarding a different modem is irrelevant.  That you all have any opinion on this is irrelevant.  The fact that these forums had one other user that asked similar questions is irrelevant.

 

Unless you are in Hughesnet employ and have the authority to decline and fullfill my request, you have no need to respond to this thread, except seemingly to promote a disinformation agenda, which is telling in itself to what Hughesnet encourages/desires from you.

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It piques the curiosity to why the responders of this thread have such a vested interest.

 

Why I want the Linux source is irrelevant, it is my legal right, along with every other person that has received one of these modems, and requires no explanation.  Whether it is running on one PCB or another is irrelevant.  The 3 year old quoted thread regarding a different modem is irrelevant.  That you all have any opinion on this is irrelevant.  The fact that these forums had one other user that asked similar questions is irrelevant.

 

Unless you are in Hughesnet employ and have the authority to decline and fullfill my request, you have no need to respond to this thread, except seemingly to promote a disinformation agenda, which is telling in itself to what Hughesnet encourages/desires from you.

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Hughesnet encourages nothing from any of us other than not violating the community guidelins or TOS.  

 

What piques peoples' curiosity is when someone asks a strange question, like requesting the source code for a proprietary product.  

 

With that said, I believe your response has answered my question.  

 

 

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Hughesnet encourages nothing from any of us other than not violating the community guidelins or TOS.  

 

What piques peoples' curiosity is when someone asks a strange question, like requesting the source code for a proprietary product.  

 

With that said, I believe your response has answered my question.  

 

 

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