Please offer opinion on data drain, documented by Glasswire
This is very strange with an unfortunately long and tedious report. I've really never seen anything like this over my time with Hughes beginning in 2011. I'm trying to understand what happened with a...
Thanks for the further info but you're not telling me anything I don't already know and nothing you're telling me is the slightest bit applicable to this situation. No Chrome tabs ever show videos or ads. With the exception of the outlook site, they're all strictly business and financial/banking related sites that I may not even log into for lengthy periods of time. There's nothing that refreshes automatically in my google ads or google merchant center tabs. None of the google sheets I keep open refresh automatically. The financial spreadsheet doesn't fetch security price updates until I refresh the page. The Outlook site may want to show some ads but they're blocked by my Adblock Plus. M$ assures me that works. Every site is working properly throughout this episode, just as they have for a very long time. There's simply nothing to find in here.
Regardless, It's over now. The drain lasted two days and stopped on its own with no intervention from me. As it turns out, it was done when I found it. No tabs in Chrome have been opened or closed before, during or after. Here's a screenshot of Glasswire the day before it started. Please note the Chrome section showing typical low usage. Another screenshot from today. The offending IP is nowhere to be found in the Glasswire data for either day. By the way, I have Glasswire installed and always open on all four computers so I have records of what goes on when I want to know. I look at three of them every day watching the size of the Bitdefender manual updates done every morning over wifi. These sometimes log highly abnormal sizes compared to the ethernet updates done on my main computer. My bad for not checking anything on my main connected computer while this was going on. Now I want to know why.
Since you're a network guy, please tell me this. Why is it the offending page still can only be seen when using any of my Hughes connected devices while it's still unavailable when connected to the internet through Verizon? This includes four windows computers and an android 13 phone.
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This is very strange with an unfortunately long and tedious report. I've really never seen anything like this over my time with Hughes beginning in 2011. I'm trying to understand what happened with an absurd amount of data loss that began sometime Friday Sept 1. This happened exclusively on my ethernet connected main computer. I just found it this morning. I only discovered it because my service plan rolls over tomorrow night. I wanted to set up an hourly testmy routine to run until then to see how poorly my Gen 5 service is doing this month. It appears whatever this thing is, ran until it consumed all of my monthly service plan allowance and then became disinterested.
For Friday, Glasswire says Google Chrome used 4.0 GB download out of a total 4.5 GB WAN. These 4 GB show up as going to IP 2a03:2880:f082:112:face:b00c:0:1823
For Saturday, Google Chrome used 5.4 GB of the 6.1 GB total WAN. 4.9 GB shows going to the same IP 2a03:2880:f082:112:face:b00c:0:1823
Chrome typically uses 15-50 MB per day. There isn't a lot I use it for. I did use it for hours Saturday afternoon to work on a complicated google docs investment spreadsheet using source data read in Vivaldi but the drain started the day before so it can't be related. Typically, my main and most regular usage for Chrome is leaving my Hughesnet SCC page open forever and sifting junk/reporting phishing mail at the live.com web interface for my outlook email accounts used by Thunderbird. Otherwise it's only used for managing my Google Merchant accounts and other Google services and the occasional search using Startpage.
Looking up the plain English iteration of the offending IP 2a03:2880:f082:112:face:b00c:0:1823
reveals it's edge-video6-shv-02-ord5.fbcdn.net.
I can't find any of this in any of the Glasswire history prior to Friday. Going to the plain English iteration of the IP reveals it's a stinkin facebook page that says:
Using that \"Go Back\" link takes me to a facebook log in page.
Funny since I do not use facebook. The only time I ever open a facebook page is within an isolated Firefox Facebook Container tab. I do have a couple of old fake facebook accounts. I can't remember the last time I logged in with one and would never use something like Chrome for that.
A very odd thing is this facebook page is only accessible when connected through Hughesnet,
When connected by Verizon I can only get this in Firefox \"Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site. We can’t connect to the server at edge-video6-shv-02-ord5.fbcdn.net.
The exact same thing happens when accessing this address from one of my wifi connected windows computers. I can see it when connected by Hughesnet but not when connected by Verizon. Even worse, the exact same thing happens when using my android phone. All this makes it appear it's all something to do with the Hughes network.
The Glasswire log for 8 am shows only 107.9 MB went to this same IP 2a03:2880:f082:112:face:b00c:0:1823 today but that hasn't increased since I discovered it when I woke the computer up at 5:30 this morning to do some work.
I left everything going as is until 8 am when I disabled the ethernet supplying the Hughesnet and reconnected by alternate ethernet using Verizon. The drain to 2a03:2880:f082:112:face:b00c:0:1823 for today hasn't increased so maybe it's over.
The computer is clean. A Bitdefender scan of the C: drive shows absolutely nothing. Chrome did get an update Thursday afternoon but I don't see how that could have set something off to start running Friday.
This is very strange with an unfortunately long and tedious report. I've really never seen anything like this over my time with Hughes beginning in 2011. I'm trying to understand what happened with an absurd amount of data loss that began sometime Friday Sept 1. This happened exclusively on my ethernet connected main computer. I just found it this morning. I only discovered it because my service plan rolls over tomorrow night. I wanted to set up an hourly testmy routine to run until then to see how poorly my Gen 5 service is doing this month. It appears whatever this thing is, ran until it consumed all of my monthly service plan allowance and then became disinterested.
For Friday, Glasswire says Google Chrome used 4.0 GB download out of a total 4.5 GB WAN. These 4 GB show up as going to IP 2a03:2880:f082:112:face:b00c:0:1823
For Saturday, Google Chrome used 5.4 GB of the 6.1 GB total WAN. 4.9 GB shows going to the same IP 2a03:2880:f082:112:face:b00c:0:1823
Chrome typically uses 15-50 MB per day. There isn't a lot I use it for. I did use it for hours Saturday afternoon to work on a complicated google docs investment spreadsheet using source data read in Vivaldi but the drain started the day before so it can't be related. Typically, my main and most regular usage for Chrome is leaving my Hughesnet SCC page open forever and sifting junk/reporting phishing mail at the live.com web interface for my outlook email accounts used by Thunderbird. Otherwise it's only used for managing my Google Merchant accounts and other Google services and the occasional search using Startpage.
Looking up the plain English iteration of the offending IP 2a03:2880:f082:112:face:b00c:0:1823
reveals it's edge-video6-shv-02-ord5.fbcdn.net.
I can't find any of this in any of the Glasswire history prior to Friday. Going to the plain English iteration of the IP reveals it's a stinkin facebook page that says:
Using that \"Go Back\" link takes me to a facebook log in page.
Funny since I do not use facebook. The only time I ever open a facebook page is within an isolated Firefox Facebook Container tab. I do have a couple of old fake facebook accounts. I can't remember the last time I logged in with one and would never use something like Chrome for that.
A very odd thing is this facebook page is only accessible when connected through Hughesnet,
When connected by Verizon I can only get this in Firefox \"Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site. We can’t connect to the server at edge-video6-shv-02-ord5.fbcdn.net.
The exact same thing happens when accessing this address from one of my wifi connected windows computers. I can see it when connected by Hughesnet but not when connected by Verizon. Even worse, the exact same thing happens when using my android phone. All this makes it appear it's all something to do with the Hughes network.
The Glasswire log for 8 am shows only 107.9 MB went to this same IP 2a03:2880:f082:112:face:b00c:0:1823 today but that hasn't increased since I discovered it when I woke the computer up at 5:30 this morning to do some work.
I left everything going as is until 8 am when I disabled the ethernet supplying the Hughesnet and reconnected by alternate ethernet using Verizon. The drain to 2a03:2880:f082:112:face:b00c:0:1823 for today hasn't increased so maybe it's over.
The computer is clean. A Bitdefender scan of the C: drive shows absolutely nothing. Chrome did get an update Thursday afternoon but I don't see how that could have set something off to start running Friday.
Any thoughts? Thanks!
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Thanks for the further info but you're not telling me anything I don't already know and nothing you're telling me is the slightest bit applicable to this situation. No Chrome tabs ever show videos or ads. With the exception of the outlook site, they're all strictly business and financial/banking related sites that I may not even log into for lengthy periods of time. There's nothing that refreshes automatically in my google ads or google merchant center tabs. None of the google sheets I keep open refresh automatically. The financial spreadsheet doesn't fetch security price updates until I refresh the page. The Outlook site may want to show some ads but they're blocked by my Adblock Plus. M$ assures me that works. Every site is working properly throughout this episode, just as they have for a very long time. There's simply nothing to find in here.
Regardless, It's over now. The drain lasted two days and stopped on its own with no intervention from me. As it turns out, it was done when I found it. No tabs in Chrome have been opened or closed before, during or after. Here's a screenshot of Glasswire the day before it started. Please note the Chrome section showing typical low usage. Another screenshot from today. The offending IP is nowhere to be found in the Glasswire data for either day. By the way, I have Glasswire installed and always open on all four computers so I have records of what goes on when I want to know. I look at three of them every day watching the size of the Bitdefender manual updates done every morning over wifi. These sometimes log highly abnormal sizes compared to the ethernet updates done on my main computer. My bad for not checking anything on my main connected computer while this was going on. Now I want to know why.
Since you're a network guy, please tell me this. Why is it the offending page still can only be seen when using any of my Hughes connected devices while it's still unavailable when connected to the internet through Verizon? This includes four windows computers and an android 13 phone.
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Thanks for the further info but you're not telling me anything I don't already know and nothing you're telling me is the slightest bit applicable to this situation. No Chrome tabs ever show videos or ads. With the exception of the outlook site, they're all strictly business and financial/banking related sites that I may not even log into for lengthy periods of time. There's nothing that refreshes automatically in my google ads or google merchant center tabs. None of the google sheets I keep open refresh automatically. The financial spreadsheet doesn't fetch security price updates until I refresh the page. The Outlook site may want to show some ads but they're blocked by my Adblock Plus. M$ assures me that works. Every site is working properly throughout this episode, just as they have for a very long time. There's simply nothing to find in here.
Regardless, It's over now. The drain lasted two days and stopped on its own with no intervention from me. As it turns out, it was done when I found it. No tabs in Chrome have been opened or closed before, during or after. Here's a screenshot of Glasswire the day before it started. Please note the Chrome section showing typical low usage. Another screenshot from today. The offending IP is nowhere to be found in the Glasswire data for either day. By the way, I have Glasswire installed and always open on all four computers so I have records of what goes on when I want to know. I look at three of them every day watching the size of the Bitdefender manual updates done every morning over wifi. These sometimes log highly abnormal sizes compared to the ethernet updates done on my main computer. My bad for not checking anything on my main connected computer while this was going on. Now I want to know why.
Since you're a network guy, please tell me this. Why is it the offending page still can only be seen when using any of my Hughes connected devices while it's still unavailable when connected to the internet through Verizon? This includes four windows computers and an android 13 phone.
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I'm on HughesNet also (obviously) and just tried it in Firefox and Chrome. Neither could find it to DNS into an IP address. That tells me there's something particular to your computer (applications, configuration, etc.) and/or local DNS/network, not HughesNet or their DNS in general.
Another clue is that 2a03:2880:f082:112:face:b00c:0:1823 traces back to Meta Platforms Ireland Limited, which is registered under facebook.com as a \"Search Engine Spider\", which is kind of weird. The actual server seems to be in Chicago, however. Not saying this is what happened, but it's a scary thought if Meta/Facebook just reached in and indexed your entire computer for you.
If it happens again, in addition to looking at Glasswire, I would right click on your taskbar, bring up a task list, and look for any processes using a lot of computer time and network access. If it looks suspicious I'd kill it immediately.
I'm on HughesNet also (obviously) and just tried it in Firefox and Chrome. Neither could find it to DNS into an IP address. That tells me there's something particular to your computer (applications, configuration, etc.) and/or local DNS/network, not HughesNet or their DNS in general.
Another clue is that 2a03:2880:f082:112:face:b00c:0:1823 traces back to Meta Platforms Ireland Limited, which is registered under facebook.com as a \"Search Engine Spider\", which is kind of weird. The actual server seems to be in Chicago, however. Not saying this is what happened, but it's a scary thought if Meta/Facebook just reached in and indexed your entire computer for you.
If it happens again, in addition to looking at Glasswire, I would right click on your taskbar, bring up a task list, and look for any processes using a lot of computer time and network access. If it looks suspicious I'd kill it immediately.
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