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Help me understand please

I am trying to figure out if a local company is as fast as Hughes net. The local company, I believe goes over cellular. They are telling me they have no data caps but do cap speed and 4 megaBITS per second. I don’t understand the difference in megaBITS and megabytes. 

 

Once we hit our data limit on Hughes we can’t stream any Netflix, etc. how slow does Hughes go to?

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Distinguished Professor IV

Re: Help me understand please

@Twinsmommy 

 

When it comes to service speed, it's normally expressed in bits per seconds, such as kilobits per second or megabits per second.  Bits per second is a decimal measure, meaning that 1000 kilobits per second is one megabit per second.  These speeds are abbreviated as bps, Kbps, Mbps, and even Gbps (gigabits per second).  

 

Sometimes you'll see speed expressed in bytes per second, such as kilobyes per second or megabytes per second, with these being shown as KBps and MBps.  Note the difference in the second letter.  Small b means bits, whereas large B means bytes.  

 

When comparing the two, bytes per second is a larger measure than bits per second, and one byte per second is equal to eight bits per second.  So, 1MBps equals 8Mbps, and conversely, 1Mbps equals 0.125MBps, or 1/8th of a MBps.  

 

It's a little confusing, but nearly all speed tests show speeds in bits per second, and nearly all ISPs advertise in bits per second, such as HughesNet with 25Mbps.  

 

As an example, this is a testmy.net speed test result from a couple of nights ago.  It's showing 36.7 megabits per second (in blue), with the megabytes per second shown in parentheses to the right (4.6MBps).   

 

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With regard to HughesNet when you hit your data cap, the speeds are normally reduced to no higher than around 3Mbps.  They're "typically 1Mbps - 3Mbps", though, depending on system congestion, as in how many people are using the system at any given time, it can be lower than that.  As well, system congestion can affect streaming even when your overall speeds should be adequate.  

 

When you have reached your data cap and your speeds are throttled, you can try reducing the Netflix definition to Standard or even Low definition to see if it helps.  

 

Hope this helps.  Smiley Happy  


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Assistant Professor

Re: Help me understand please

Not to be pedantic, but a Byte is actually counted as larger than 8bits. It's usually 10 or 11 depending upon additional parity/error correction bits and a possible stop bit.


* Disclaimer: I am a HughesNet customer and not a HughesNet employee. All of my comments are my own and do not necessarily represent HughesNet in any way.
Distinguished Professor IV

Re: Help me understand please


@MarkJFine wrote:

Not to be pedantic, but a Byte is actually counted as larger than 8bits. It's usually 10 or 11 depending upon additional parity/error correction bits and a possible stop bit.


I was only speaking in the context of speed test results, not in practice.  


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Re: Help me understand please


@Twinsmommy wrote:

I am trying to figure out if a local company is as fast as Hughes net. The local company, I believe goes over cellular. They are telling me they have no data caps but do cap speed and 4 megaBITS per second.

  That's a lot slower than my normal speed with Hughes of 26 to 31 mbps.

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Re: Help me understand please


@gaines_wright wrote:

@Twinsmommy wrote:

I am trying to figure out if a local company is as fast as Hughes net. The local company, I believe goes over cellular. They are telling me they have no data caps but do cap speed and 4 megaBITS per second.

  That's a lot slower than my normal speed with Hughes of 26 to 31 mbps.


Back when I was stuck with 3Mbps with windstream I had to "start" the video, immediately pause it, and let it buffer/load a sizable chunk before unpausing the video. But that was on youtube and amazon video, so I am not sure if netflix works the same way or not.

Re: Help me understand please

"Back when I was stuck with 3Mbps with windstream I had to "start" the video, immediately pause it, and let it buffer/load a sizable chunk before unpausing the video......"

 

  IMO no satellite internet is suitable for streaming videos in the long run.  You can get around the buffering problem by using an add on like  VideoDownloadHelper to capture the video to a file and then watch it as many times as you want to offline with no buffering.   It's a little clunky to use, but it works for me.

 

  There's another app called PlayonCloud that I've seen mentioned here many times, I've never used it myself since it costs $8.99 a month, whereas VideoDownloadHelper is free.

 

  Keep in mind that video uses about 1 gig an hour of your data.

 
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Re: Help me understand please

reluttr,

 

PlayOn Cloud does not offer memberships; they offer storage plans. The cheapest storage plan is $2.99 a month (there is no $8 plan).  The  storage plans are just for that, storing recordings in the cloud for as long as you pay for the plan. Without a storage plan, recordings are stored only for 7 days, so you need to stay on top of your recordings and download them promptly.  Storage plans also give you a set number of recording credits a month, but they need to be used during the month. 

 

You can buy recording credits  that never expire for as little as 20 cents. Depends on how many you buy. Right now they're running a sale of 50 credits (that do not expire) for $10.   I find this option much better than the storage plan. I download recordings promptly so 7 days storage is fine for me .

 

playon_cloud_storage_plans.pngCloud plan recording credits may be used for recording videos of any length and must be used during the subscription month. Additional anytime credits that never expire may be purchased as needed. You may change or cancel your plan at any time.

 

Recording with PlayOn Cloud is legal, and you can record from many sources, including Hulu, Prime, HBO, Netflix, Showtime, etc.  Please be advised that using apps such as VideoDownloadHelper to record shows is actually illegal and that the MPAA and other agencies do crack down on such things. 

Re: Help me understand please

 

"PlayOn Cloud does not offer memberships; they offer storage plans. The cheapest storage plan is $2.99 a month (there is no $8 plan)....."

 

  Ah, I see I didn't google deep enough. They've changed everything. Well, their disclaimer says that things are liable to change at any time.

 

"Recording with PlayOn Cloud is legal, and you can record from many sources, including Hulu, Prime, HBO, Netflix, Showtime, etc."

 

  The big media companies would like to make it illegal if they could.  From what I've read, the actual legal status of POC downloaded videos is still a little iffy.

 

"Please be advised that using apps such as VideoDownloadHelper to record shows is actually illegal and that the MPAA and other agencies do crack down on such things."

 

A quote from the POC CEO:

 

"We've looked a lot at legal precedent," Lawrence says. "We've looked at when the DVR came to market, and generally speaking, other than some noise, it really wasn't challenged."

 

  What's good for POC should apply to VDH also. AFAIK neither are paying the media companies royalties.

  I fail to see any real difference between POC and VDH other than cost,  either way you end up with your own personal copy, which the media companies absolutely hate, because you can make another copy, and give it to your friends, etc.

 

  There are a lot of things that are technically illegal.  For example, I've ripped my whole CD music collection down to MP3s and have copies on two different computers and in each of my vehicles.  The day a SWAT team shows up to confiscate my illegal music or my illegal videos, is the day I'll join the new American Revolution!

 

  BTW "Please be advised..."  Sounds like radio talk from my old Military Police days. Just wondering, were you a fellow MP?


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