And apparently you're missing MY point, which is that what YOU WERE TOLD regarding latency and streaming is incorrect. Unless your latency is inordinately high, which you made no mention of, the latency has nothing to do with your inability to stream, so what the \"manager\" stated to you is factually incorrect. If it was inordinately high it most certainly could affect streaming, and tech support and/or engineering would be trying to figure out why and where the problem lies. It's very likely that your streaming issue has to do with congestion and/or some other issue, but not latency.
As for the last part, thank you for the clarification.
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Gabe you are completely missing what is being said
A \"manager\" at tech support said I would not he able to stream while trying to trouble shoot.
And a member of account management said I would not have to pay an early termination fee but when I asked for what would be on the final bill if I canceled she said any fees that occurred which she said would be purchased tokens she did not include any termination fees. When I said if I did not buy any tokens there would be no fees she then changed it to say there would be an early termination fee
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HughesNet is like \"the Hotel California\" without the lovely place. You can cancel but never be able to leave (unless you want to spend a huge sum of money (my termination fee was supposedly $572). No explanation as to what it was made up of (I thought $400 was max) or a copy of the contract or calls. I could call them another 20 times and get the same runaround, I'm sure. I've had HughesNet twice (should have learned the first time), and I have yet to have a good experience ... with anything. Good luck!
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If the service call is still available, the HN reps on this site can pull it and review it. The process takes up to 7 business days, and you will receive a private message with the results.
What was allegedly said in the following just isnt' true... \"tech support tells me I will never be able to stream due to latency\". Many HughesNet customers, including myself, are able to stream without issue, regardless of the high latency. Though higher latency can affect streaming, it doesn't necessarily mean that it will. The Video Data Saver and the page about it, as well as many posts regarding data usage while streaming, demonstrate that many people stream with HughesNet.
Regarding the Data Tokens, though I can't quite accurately discern what's going on with the \"paragraph\" being difficult to read due to a lack of punctuation, if it's concerning a question of refunds, unused Data Tokens are not refundable. If you never bought any Data Tokens, on the other hand, you wouldn't be charged for any.
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What was allegedly said in the following just isnt' true... \"tech support tells me I will never be able to stream due to latency\". Many HughesNet customers, including myself, are able to stream without issue, regardless of the high latency. Though higher latency can affect streaming, it doesn't necessarily mean that it will. The Video Data Saver and the page about it, as well as many posts regarding data usage while streaming, demonstrate that many people stream with HughesNet.
Regarding the Data Tokens, though I can't quite accurately discern what's going on with the \"paragraph\" being difficult to read due to a lack of punctuation, if it's concerning a question of refunds, unused Data Tokens are not refundable. If you never bought any Data Tokens, on the other hand, you wouldn't be charged for any.
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Elwiemke wrote:
While on tech support I was told by a manager that I would not be able to stream due to latency that is exactly what the manager told me
And, as I stated, what you were allegedly told is incorrect. Plenty of people with HughesNet stream. If HughesNet did not support streaming, they would not have bothered creating the Video Data Saver and the pages of information concerning it, nor would there be FAQ pages dedicated to the different aspects of streaming with HughesNet. Nor would there be many posts concerning data usage while streaming and how to mitigate it. Plenty of people stream with HughesNet.
https://support.hughesnet.com/en/faq/internet/what-is-video-data-saver
http://support.hughesnet.com/en/faq/internet/progressive-and-adaptive-streaming
https://www.hughesnet.com/frequently-asked-questions
It's likely that the tech was conflating streaming with real time online gaming, the latter of which does not work with HughesNet due to the high latency.
Regarding Data Tokens, if you did not purchase any since the beginning of your current billing month you will not be billed for any. If you did, you will.
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While on tech support I was told by a manager that I would not be able to stream due to latency that is exactly what the manager told me
And, as I stated, what you were allegedly told is incorrect. Plenty of people with HughesNet stream. If HughesNet did not support streaming, they would not have bothered creating the Video Data Saver and the pages of information concerning it, nor would there be FAQ pages dedicated to the different aspects of streaming with HughesNet. Nor would there be many posts concerning data usage while streaming and how to mitigate it. Plenty of people stream with HughesNet.
https://support.hughesnet.com/en/faq/internet/what-is-video-data-saver
http://support.hughesnet.com/en/faq/internet/progressive-and-adaptive-streaming
https://www.hughesnet.com/frequently-asked-questions
It's likely that the tech was conflating streaming with real time online gaming, the latter of which does not work with HughesNet due to the high latency.
Regarding Data Tokens, if you did not purchase any since the beginning of your current billing month you will not be billed for any. If you did, you will.
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