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eco's avatar
eco
Senior
3 months ago

I saw Hughesnet is ending, Starlink suggested. Is this true?

I saw an article that HughesNet is closing, suggesting Starlink for subscribers.

Is this true?

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  • If HughesNet's business history tracks, they've never shut anyone off unless a particular satellite was going out of service and the user didn't upgrade. Revenue is still revenue and cash is king, and those satellites still have to recover costs. I really doubt they'd turn off an existing known revenue stream, thinking they can make it up with an unknown market projection.

    Based on that I'd be willing to think the plan would be to discontinue any future residential service applications in favor of focusing on business terminals. As long as residential customers continue to pay and remain on contract they'll just let attrition take it's natural course. But I really doubt anyone would be cut off if they didn't take any prospective StarLink offer. I would also expect a reduction in any kind of sunk cost/investment towards residential user support, which might include this site.

    Again, this is just supposition on my part based on past history.

    • maratsade's avatar
      maratsade
      Distinguished Professor IV

      MarkJFine​ 

      Hopefully you're right, though according to the 10-Q: The commercial agreements will also provide for a fee-based referral program that lets EchoStar refer existing HughesNet customers and new Starlink customers to SpaceX."   

      Edit: I only gave the report a very cursory reading, so I may have missed important info.

       

      • MarkJFine's avatar
        MarkJFine
        Professor

        maratsade​ 

        It's very possible that they would offer people the opportunity to cancel their contracts (early?) as part of their attrition plan.

  • It will be interesting to see what Amazon Leo will offer compared to Starlink.

    For now Starlink equipment is free.

    Leo for now quotes $400. for equipment.

    Leo being a next gen low altitude sat service may have some innovations Starlink doesn't have. may have , they eluded to. Data allowance is TBA, so there maybe limits, where Starlink is unlimited.

    Still Leo is a ways away, Hughes is good for us, so as long as they are there, we will be too.

    • maratsade's avatar
      maratsade
      Distinguished Professor IV

      I'll be sad to see it go.  It's worked well for me for about 15 years.

    • maratsade's avatar
      maratsade
      Distinguished Professor IV

      If SL equipment is free, what are they charging for here, do you know?

       

  • Thanks many links showing this Cnet even. Thanks for your prompt reply.

     

      • eco's avatar
        eco
        Senior

        Hi, I can't find the Cnet piece, but here is what I ran across yesterday.

        https://cordcuttersnews.com/a-major-internet-provider-is-reportedly-shutting-down/

    • GabeU's avatar
      GabeU
      Distinguished Professor IV

      I ended up editing out my reply, as I'm seeing the same thing on multiple sites. I figured it was just an advertising type thing, or maybe people being paid to spread that kind of thing to scoop up new customers, but now I don't know. I may very well be true. 

      Hopefully one of the reps will address this soon. 

      • maratsade's avatar
        maratsade
        Distinguished Professor IV

        The information is on the SEC 10Q filing.  "The SpaceX License Purchase Agreement also provides for future long-term commercial agreements that will enable EchoStar to offer our Wireless subscribers access to SpaceX’s next-generation Starlink Direct to Cell text and voice and broadband services utilizing certain rights and licenses related to the Spectrum that are to be conveyed by EchoStar to SpaceX at the Spectrum Acquisition Closing. The commercial agreements will also provide for a fee-based referral program that lets EchoStar refer existing HughesNet customers and new Starlink customers to SpaceX."

        Hopefully someone will let us know here, in this community.