Using TestMy.net to compare your speed to others on your beam
I was poking around the 'TestMy.net Database' option under 'DB' on the TestMy.net page, and I noticed something that might be useful for knowing how your tests compare with other users of HughesNe...
To be honest, it's probably a lot simpler explanation like the network periodically adjusting the load.
Occam's razor.
Yes, excellent point about the load balancing! Although I don't know much about how this works, it seems that the bandwidth of the beam (at least for download) is divided among the "Out Routes". I noticed that not only has my IPGW not changed since the 11th, neither has my outroute, and I think that normally changes fairly often, like every day or two at some seemingly random time. So maybe something that does the load balancing has stopped working on my beam and people who reboot are getting crowded onto a busy out route, while out route 4 becomes increasingly empty! I was going to reboot my modem last night, but held off when I began to suspect something -- even though my evidence is flimsy at best.
I could reboot tonight and see what happens -- but if this wild hypothesis about load balancing is remotely correct and I end up on a crowded out route then I will be very sad :-(
Of course, maybe the fantastic performance I am seeing is just the result of the great crush of traffic from the pandemic being over and I am finally seeing the result of those gateway upgrades they appear to have rolled out earlier this year. Although the speed tests I ran last night in prime time were eye popping, it was Saturday evening, so things are a little different for Saturday. Sunday usually appears to have more activity in the afternoon, so maybe I can retest then to see what happens.
We could also ask that fellow with the issue for his beam, IPGW, and out route to see if there is anything even remotely lining up, after all, if he is in Utah then there can not be anything here right?
So if we ask the fellow with the issue for beam/IPGW/out route, and he is on my beam with a different out route, and I see crazy high benchmarks consistently over 50Mbps again this afternoon which is usually fairly busy on a Sunday, and if I reboot to find myself in purgatory at 7pm tonight, then maybe there is something to this load balancing idea?
If the first two look to be true, I might not have the courage to reboot though.... :-)
Rebooting always pops you into a lesser used IPGW. It will also have the benefit of refreshing the DNS cache, which is always good. Sometimes that thing gets corrupted. I usually end up rebooting at least once a week, because my wife likes to work downstairs, away from the modem, which doesn't always have a good wifi signal. That's usually a good formula for a busted DNS cache.
Yes, exactly -- but if that process quit working for a bit it might be a problem as on reboot people might begin to accumulate on one IPGW. There may be a similar process with Out Route?
Anyway, from his testing, I see a third city show up that is 140 miles from the approximate beam 82 center. With my testmy results, the locations were within 60 miles of beam center 2/3 of the time, and the rest were within 90 miles. Maratsade had a larger distance, but with 140 miles (and that is if he is actually beam 82, so maybe the location data is even worse than this!) then maybe test scores are not just mixed in with J1 beams, but also neighboring J2 beams.
Also, I have been running test this afternoon, and they are not above 50Mbps, but looking good in the high 30's to mid 40's, so it is beginning to appear there is nothing to this and that I just had a streak of really high tests for a bit.
I also do a regular reboot, the early patches would get squirrelly after a week, but they seem a bit better now, so I try to reboot every two weeks. I don't think I need to worry about rebooting this evening and finding myself in slow-ville.
Do you think I should ask the fellow to confirm his beam/IPGW/Out route? I don't want to waste his time with a wild goose chase.
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I was poking around the 'TestMy.net Database' option under 'DB' on the TestMy.net page, and I noticed something that might be useful for knowing how your tests compare with other users of HughesNet that share your beam -- and thus experience the same \"congestion\" circumstances that you do.
After you select 'TestMy.net Database', there is a list of details that they use to ID you -- this includes a city. As a satellite beam covers a wide area, the city I saw was some distance from me, but it appeared to be close to the center of my beam!
Click the City, then click the ISPs tab, and check to if you see a speed average for HughesNet for this city which may represent the average speed for your beam.
Would someone else try this and report what city you are seeing associated with your location along with your satellite beam number? This will let me know if this idea actually holds water so to speak. I have searched for others cities that I thought might be near a beam center and found some that I thought would be for Jupiter 1, VS1, and VS2 that appear to give speeds that are in the general range of what I guessed for each.
Does anyone familiar with TestMy.net know how to search a provider for cities that they have records for? That would make it a lot easier to check if this is an idea with potential or just nonsense as the cities I found with records have been found with just wild guessing based on looking at a map.
Now, of course, many folks that run the test use the wrong test size (too small test size and the test result is dominated by the start up time due to latency), or they are using Wi-Fi, so the average result numbers are likely to be on the low side, but if this works, then this would give a way to know if you are experiencing performance on-par with others that share your beam.
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To be honest, it's probably a lot simpler explanation like the network periodically adjusting the load.
Occam's razor.
Yes, excellent point about the load balancing! Although I don't know much about how this works, it seems that the bandwidth of the beam (at least for download) is divided among the \"Out Routes\". I noticed that not only has my IPGW not changed since the 11th, neither has my outroute, and I think that normally changes fairly often, like every day or two at some seemingly random time. So maybe something that does the load balancing has stopped working on my beam and people who reboot are getting crowded onto a busy out route, while out route 4 becomes increasingly empty! I was going to reboot my modem last night, but held off when I began to suspect something -- even though my evidence is flimsy at best.
I could reboot tonight and see what happens -- but if this wild hypothesis about load balancing is remotely correct and I end up on a crowded out route then I will be very sad :-(
Of course, maybe the fantastic performance I am seeing is just the result of the great crush of traffic from the pandemic being over and I am finally seeing the result of those gateway upgrades they appear to have rolled out earlier this year. Although the speed tests I ran last night in prime time were eye popping, it was Saturday evening, so things are a little different for Saturday. Sunday usually appears to have more activity in the afternoon, so maybe I can retest then to see what happens.
We could also ask that fellow with the issue for his beam, IPGW, and out route to see if there is anything even remotely lining up, after all, if he is in Utah then there can not be anything here right?
So if we ask the fellow with the issue for beam/IPGW/out route, and he is on my beam with a different out route, and I see crazy high benchmarks consistently over 50Mbps again this afternoon which is usually fairly busy on a Sunday, and if I reboot to find myself in purgatory at 7pm tonight, then maybe there is something to this load balancing idea?
If the first two look to be true, I might not have the courage to reboot though.... :-)
What do you think?
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To be honest, it's probably a lot simpler explanation like the network periodically adjusting the load.
Occam's razor.
Yes, excellent point about the load balancing! Although I don't know much about how this works, it seems that the bandwidth of the beam (at least for download) is divided among the \"Out Routes\". I noticed that not only has my IPGW not changed since the 11th, neither has my outroute, and I think that normally changes fairly often, like every day or two at some seemingly random time. So maybe something that does the load balancing has stopped working on my beam and people who reboot are getting crowded onto a busy out route, while out route 4 becomes increasingly empty! I was going to reboot my modem last night, but held off when I began to suspect something -- even though my evidence is flimsy at best.
I could reboot tonight and see what happens -- but if this wild hypothesis about load balancing is remotely correct and I end up on a crowded out route then I will be very sad :-(
Of course, maybe the fantastic performance I am seeing is just the result of the great crush of traffic from the pandemic being over and I am finally seeing the result of those gateway upgrades they appear to have rolled out earlier this year. Although the speed tests I ran last night in prime time were eye popping, it was Saturday evening, so things are a little different for Saturday. Sunday usually appears to have more activity in the afternoon, so maybe I can retest then to see what happens.
We could also ask that fellow with the issue for his beam, IPGW, and out route to see if there is anything even remotely lining up, after all, if he is in Utah then there can not be anything here right?
So if we ask the fellow with the issue for beam/IPGW/out route, and he is on my beam with a different out route, and I see crazy high benchmarks consistently over 50Mbps again this afternoon which is usually fairly busy on a Sunday, and if I reboot to find myself in purgatory at 7pm tonight, then maybe there is something to this load balancing idea?
If the first two look to be true, I might not have the courage to reboot though.... :-)
What do you think?
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Rebooting always pops you into a lesser used IPGW. It will also have the benefit of refreshing the DNS cache, which is always good. Sometimes that thing gets corrupted. I usually end up rebooting at least once a week, because my wife likes to work downstairs, away from the modem, which doesn't always have a good wifi signal. That's usually a good formula for a busted DNS cache.
Rebooting always pops you into a lesser used IPGW. It will also have the benefit of refreshing the DNS cache, which is always good. Sometimes that thing gets corrupted. I usually end up rebooting at least once a week, because my wife likes to work downstairs, away from the modem, which doesn't always have a good wifi signal. That's usually a good formula for a busted DNS cache.
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Yes, exactly -- but if that process quit working for a bit it might be a problem as on reboot people might begin to accumulate on one IPGW. There may be a similar process with Out Route?
Anyway, from his testing, I see a third city show up that is 140 miles from the approximate beam 82 center. With my testmy results, the locations were within 60 miles of beam center 2/3 of the time, and the rest were within 90 miles. Maratsade had a larger distance, but with 140 miles (and that is if he is actually beam 82, so maybe the location data is even worse than this!) then maybe test scores are not just mixed in with J1 beams, but also neighboring J2 beams.
Also, I have been running test this afternoon, and they are not above 50Mbps, but looking good in the high 30's to mid 40's, so it is beginning to appear there is nothing to this and that I just had a streak of really high tests for a bit.
I also do a regular reboot, the early patches would get squirrelly after a week, but they seem a bit better now, so I try to reboot every two weeks. I don't think I need to worry about rebooting this evening and finding myself in slow-ville.
Do you think I should ask the fellow to confirm his beam/IPGW/Out route? I don't want to waste his time with a wild goose chase.
Yes, exactly -- but if that process quit working for a bit it might be a problem as on reboot people might begin to accumulate on one IPGW. There may be a similar process with Out Route?
Anyway, from his testing, I see a third city show up that is 140 miles from the approximate beam 82 center. With my testmy results, the locations were within 60 miles of beam center 2/3 of the time, and the rest were within 90 miles. Maratsade had a larger distance, but with 140 miles (and that is if he is actually beam 82, so maybe the location data is even worse than this!) then maybe test scores are not just mixed in with J1 beams, but also neighboring J2 beams.
Also, I have been running test this afternoon, and they are not above 50Mbps, but looking good in the high 30's to mid 40's, so it is beginning to appear there is nothing to this and that I just had a streak of really high tests for a bit.
I also do a regular reboot, the early patches would get squirrelly after a week, but they seem a bit better now, so I try to reboot every two weeks. I don't think I need to worry about rebooting this evening and finding myself in slow-ville.
Do you think I should ask the fellow to confirm his beam/IPGW/Out route? I don't want to waste his time with a wild goose chase.
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