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Gen5 since late March.....

Distinguished Professor III

Gen5 since late March.....

Capture.JPGA slight dip lately?


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Professor

Re: Gen5 since late March.....

I have never, since the install,  got consistent 25 up/3 down, and in general, I was in the neighborhood of 17/18 down, but recently, the speeds have dipped noticeably -- I wonder what happened. I can't believe beams are oversold, though I suppose they may be.  It's quite a puzzling thing.

Re: Gen5 since late March.....


@maratsade wrote:

I have never, since the install,  got consistent 25 up/3 down, and in general, I was in the neighborhood of 17/18 down, but recently, the speeds have dipped noticeably -- I wonder what happened. I can't believe beams are oversold, though I suppose they may be.  It's quite a puzzling thing.


I just hope they are not adding to the issue by adding new customers onto known beams with issues.  That does no good-will to the new customer or existing.  They need to neutralize things and keep the ship afloat, fix the holes, show some improvements that the issue was fixed, then add more new folks.

 

I sense that is not the case though meaning I see nothing or have heard anything like someone wanting to join and being turned away or added but warned of the major speed issues taking place.

 

TJ

Assistant Professor

Re: Gen5 since late March.....

Genuinely think it's not really the number of people that's the problem. It's what a few people are trying to do that is clogging it up.


* Disclaimer: I am a HughesNet customer and not a HughesNet employee. All of my comments are my own and do not necessarily represent HughesNet in any way.

Re: Gen5 since late March.....


@MarkJFine wrote:

Genuinely think it's not really the number of people that's the problem. It's what a few people are trying to do that is clogging it up.


Here is my guess.... and it is only that.... a guess.   

 

Doubt it is the bird.  Can't imagine they would spend so much to send the bird up there w/o making sure it was in tip top shape.

 

My guess it is the ISP infrastructure in place that dishes out the actual internet.  My guess what is in place now is having a hard time with all the traffic, and at night comes to a crawl.

 

So the message a number of weeks back that stated effective immediatly, expansion of the capacity meant some $ is being thrown at this infrastructure and any of the locations that feed the Internet to us all is getting a facelift, as we speak... but will take some time for it to all pan out.

 

Hoping that amount of time is not months away but mere weeks.

 

But that is my guess.

 

;-)

 

TJ

Assistant Professor

Re: Gen5 since late March.....

Infrastructure is part of it, but I think it's really a stopgap to alleviate what exists now: people attempting to stream HD movies, subscribed to cable-cutting technologies that are too high a rate, incompatible cameras, latency-dependent VPN, or running any other kind of system-intense technologies that are good enough for terrestrial but will bring limited satellite resources to its knees. [Edit: Not to mention all the IoT stuff like smart scales, refrigerators, lighting systems, door locks, microwaves, washer/dryers... all of these things that load down a particular user's bandwidth, let alone combined on a limited beam]

 

We did the math on this several weeks ago. It only takes a relatively few people (in the thousands, iirc) on any one beam to use any of these at any one time to drag everyone on it into the dirt.

 

So beam capacity is only one part of the problem that might level the load across a beam better rather than compressing it amongst fewer servers and outroutes. You still need to level those resources across the beams routed to a particular gateway (or even intra-gateway, which would certainly increase latency). This way you can pull in resources from underutilized beams (and gateways), and dynamically make full use of the satellite's capacity across the userbase, focusing it where it's needed at any given time.

 

This all assumes the bottleneck isn't the beam itself (which I really doubt), and lies mostly in the processing required at the ground stations.


* Disclaimer: I am a HughesNet customer and not a HughesNet employee. All of my comments are my own and do not necessarily represent HughesNet in any way.

Re: Gen5 since late March.....

One would think with only 10GB to 50GB at full speed of data, anyone that is doing HD that much or use this many contraptions would bottom out in mear days for data and they would no longer be that bottleneck as as they FAP out. I doubt that many would pay big fees for tokens.  I am sure it is part of it though as you say.  Maybe Hughes should cut off any HD and only allow SD going foreward, unless they have some way to add this capacity.

 

In such a short time since I been on Gen 5 (late September) it went from only afternoon to late evening slow-down to 24/7 slowdown to 200K speeds.  I have not see much faster for a bit now.

 

So either more people have been added or whatever is broken has broken more. <grin>

 

Either way, 200K speeds today have been a rough one for sure but I been managing.  Just basic emails, web work, and no streaming stuff other than a couple 144p vids on Youtube.

 

TJ

Assistant Professor

Re: Gen5 since late March.....

If it were me, I would not only find a way to block HD streaming, I would block the ports of technologies that are crippling the system so they wouldn't work at all.

 

Edit: Have you noticed all the people saying they can't stream anymore, their system is slow and buffering, and they've ran out of data in only a couple of days? It's no coincidence to me...


* Disclaimer: I am a HughesNet customer and not a HughesNet employee. All of my comments are my own and do not necessarily represent HughesNet in any way.
Assistant Professor

Re: Gen5 since late March.....


@MarkJFine wrote:

If it were me, I would not only find a way to block HD streaming, I would block the ports of technologies that are crippling the system so they wouldn't work at all.

 

Edit: Have you noticed all the people saying they can't stream anymore, their system is slow and buffering, and they've ran out of data in only a couple of days? It's no coincidence to me...


I stream fine on low def Netflix playback setting, don't go over our monthly allowance. We set YouTube videos to 240p using the gear icon.

 

Seriously no problem here on Gen 4  J1 satellite.

 

Also awake before 8 AM most mornings so download lots then during Bonus time.

 

But my speed during peak time:

 

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Re: Gen5 since late March.....

Mark, are you saying end streaming of any quality video? That includes netflix, YouTube, etc. ?

TJ