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Re: poor lamb

Cancellng cards or any refusal to pay will also put them into 'collections' and usually results in a bad mark in one's credit rating.


* Disclaimer: I am a HughesNet customer and not a HughesNet employee. All of my comments are my own and do not necessarily represent HughesNet in any way.
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Re: poor lamb

Wow -- that was quick! I don't want to ruffle any feathers by asking, but what did he dislike so much in such a short period of time?

 

I have had a good experience with both HughesNet and Viasat/Excede, excepting the one time my brother streamed some dumb video over and over and went over the 15GB cap on the classic plan and squawked to me about it being slower than dial-up and I said I can see by the Windows Task Manager that it is downloading at like 2-3 times dial-up speed yet. That really set him off....

 

 

Distinguished Professor III

Re: poor lamb


@MarkJFine wrote:

Cancellng cards or any refusal to pay will also put them into 'collections' and usually results in a bad mark in one's credit rating.


Evidently this person works "under the table" and doesn't care about their credit rating.  It's possible that they'll forego the contract, but the cost of the equipment is another thing.  Whether he'll rest on "come get your equipment" or return it as alluded to in the original description of such only he can decide.  

 

With that said, when someone refuses to pay at the beginning the chances of them allowing that contract to end is less.  Those who have been allowed to break their contracts tend to be those who don't slam the door right off the bat.  

 

People never realize how much they hurt themselves by their actions until it's too late.  Restraint often saves the day.  


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Re: poor lamb


@MrBuster wrote:

Wow -- that was quick! I don't want to ruffle any feathers by asking, but what did he dislike so much in such a short period of time?

 

  Well, he was talked into getting Viasat in the first place by what was IMO deceptive marketing.  I.E. telling him that he was going to be able to get rid of his satellite TV bill with a 10 gig data plan.  This guy has zero interest in the internet other wise.   


 

Re: poor lamb


@MarkJFine wrote:

Cancellng cards or any refusal to pay will also put them into 'collections' and usually results in a bad mark in one's credit rating.


   That seems to be the general consensus.  But does anyone actually know anyone to who this actually happened?

I know one person who didn't pay the ETF, and  had no repercussions. 

 

  I wouldn't be suprised, with so much deceptive marketing going on, that so many people are canceling satellite ISP contracts without paying an ETF, that the lenders are just ignoring it.  Similar to 40 years ago when medical labs and xray places would collect from your insurance, and then try to collect the full amount from you also. 

 

  I actually had fun when a collection agency would call, after talking to me one time they wouldn't call back again.  Especially, after talking to my Credit Union who told me:  " Oh, we know that stuff is going on.  We won't even consider it when looking at your credit."

 

 Of course, at lot of things have changed in the last 40 years. 

 

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Re: poor lamb


@gaines_wright wrote:

I wouldn't be suprised, with so much deceptive marketing going on, that so many people are canceling satellite ISP contracts without paying an ETF, that the lenders are just ignoring it.   

Neither lenders, nor credit rating agencies, ignore someone having a debt placed into collections.  As well, neither cares what the debt collection is for.  When it's present it affects, and will continue to do so for quite some time.  Unless someone has a legitimate excuse and successfully fights to have it removed from the record, which is both time consuming and emotionally draining, it affects their credit for years.


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Re: poor lamb


@gaines_wright wrote:

  Well, he was talked into getting Viasat in the first place by what was IMO deceptive marketing.  I.E. telling him that he was going to be able to get rid of his satellite TV bill with a 10 gig data plan.  This guy has zero interest in the internet other wise.   


 


10 gig data plan!   
 
I am behind the times!
 
I thought their minimum plan was one of those “unlimited” plans with 35 or 40GB priority data now and that those caught up would not notice until after a couple of weeks when they had chewed through all the data and experienced deprioritization so I was surprised it took less than a week -- I guess the antenna trouble has reduced the offerings.
 
The low data plans can be painful without the old free zone in the morning hours.  Of course, their plans vary a lot by area so maybe that is a busy beam for them with nothing on the new "bird" to offer.  Although none of the plans are suitable for extensive high definition streaming....
 

 

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Re: poor lamb

@MrBuster 

 

I believe that the Liberty Plans are still available in some areas.  And, in reality, from what I've been reading on their boards, the Liberty Plans are still better than the Unlimited Plans for those on the big beam, and even more so with the people who got the Unlimited Plans with the higher data threshold before Optimization kicks in.  That antenna issue really hurt them, and offering Unlimited Plans when they were fully aware of it was just plain stupid.  Those lucky enough to be on one of the high density spot beams do well, but most can't get that.    

 

I really do feel sorry for those with said plans.  Speeds dumping into the double digit Kbps range in the evenings, and sometimes not much better during the day?  No thank you.  You can barely even open a basic web page with those speeds these days.  Smiley Sad


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Re: poor lamb


@GabeU wrote:

@gaines_wright wrote:

I wouldn't be suprised, with so much deceptive marketing going on, that so many people are canceling satellite ISP contracts without paying an ETF, that the lenders are just ignoring it.   

Neither lenders, nor credit rating agencies, ignore someone having a debt placed into collections.  As well, neither cares what the debt collection is for.  When it's present it affects, and will continue to do so for quite some time.  Unless someone has a legitimate excuse and successfully fights to have it removed from the record, which is both time consuming and emotionally draining, it affects their credit for years.


    No offence intended, but do you have any first hand experience with this happening?  You seem so sure about it. 

 

  I certainly didn't find it so.forty years ago,  when lenders, looked at the details of the causes of a bad credit rating, and acted accordingly.  At least my lender did with my credit rating, which at the time the collection agencies were doing their best to try to destroy.  I financed a new truck at that time with no problems.

 

  All this makes me want to cancel Hughes, not pay the ETF, and then finance a new truck.  Smiley Embarassed)>  Just kidding.

 

 Anybody want to bet that I wouldn't be successful?

 

 I'm suprised no one caught the original point of my post, which is that satellite ISPs are using predatory and misleading tactics to lure in new suscribers, and then they the hold the boogie man of an ETF over their heads to try to keep them.

 

  IMO this is not wise marketing, and I don't think it's going to be successful in the long run   I know one person who didn't pay the Hughes ETF with no repercussions.  I await the result of poor lamb doing the same with Viasat.

 

 

Re: poor lamb


@MrBuster wrote:

@gaines_wright wrote:

  Well, he was talked into getting Viasat in the first place by what was IMO deceptive marketing.  I.E. telling him that he was going to be able to get rid of his satellite TV bill with a 10 gig data plan.  This guy has zero interest in the internet other wise.   


 


10 gig data plan!   
 
I am behind the times! 

 

  Well, I probably misspoke.  I think he actually told me it was a fifty dollar a month plan.  I have no experience with Viasat, I just assumed it was 10 gig.

 

  I considered Viasat shortly after my problems with gen5.  I called my tech company, and they told me I already had the best deal that was available with Hughes.