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Hidden Network
This is probebly crazy, but I'll ask anyway. Is the Gen5 modem-wifi creating a hidden network? I've been noticing it every time that I turn on wifi on my Wondows 10 Surface Pro 3. When I unpl...
Yes the signal is coming from your HT2000w... You wont be able to connect to that signal, and the signal is disabled if you disable the Wifi on the modem.
It's kind of like the USB port on the back of the HT1100... It's there for "future use", but, we have no idea when or if that future will ever come. :)You'll pardon my "clueles banter", but tone is as tone does.
First question asked about hidden network. After thinking about it I asked 2 more questions.
I do not believe that Hughesnet is being transparent. I do not buy that they can do what they want and we have no choice.
When members ask specifically about the "Hidden Network" no explaination is given.
The "supposed experts" on this forum also have no answers as to the "hidden network". They chose to attack members wanting to know what is going on. WHY?
I'll just leave it at that.....
No, I do not see your point.
We were not notified that there would be an update that would give us an Hidden Network. It just showed up out of nowhere, no explaination at all.
Then when discovered and questioned, nebulis answers.
Cyber security is scarey and I need to knpw exactly what Hughesnet is doing to my account. PERIOD.
When was the last time you were given notice of an update and what was in that update.
Does it help you to know that I was formerly in the cyber security buisness for a major defense contractor and I'm still telling you there's no issue?
I think we could have taken a better tone to lake_woman
There is certainly nothing wrong in questioning the security of our networks.
I have always felt that my Router held the "keys to my Network Kindom". My Network, My Router, My Rules.
While I have don't believe that Hughes has anything up their sleeve AND we are all behind a CGN server I still like to have as much control over my network as I can muster.
While I am still, and shall remain on Gen4, I would not enable the wireless portion of the HT2000w.
I will continue to use my Asus RT-AC3100
Guys... Just chill... please?
This issue has been marked by the OP several times as being solved.
Think it needs to be locked down and stowed by the admins (if that's still possible) so it can't continue to feed on itself.
Excellent idea, Mark.
I can assure you, they are not using that hidden network to hack into your private network, if that is what you are worried about. There would be HUGE legal consequences if they did that.
lake_woman wrote:It is a problem when asking Hughesnet about changes that are seen and no explanation has been made.
No. It's not a problem asking about changes that are seen and no explanation has been made. Not at all. You asked. You were answered. You accepted the answer as a solution, and thanked the person for answering the mystery.
You then proceed to post that you are not only owed further explanation, but wouldn't even accept the explanation you received from an official rep, nor from anyone else basically telling you the same thing.
You just don't like the explanation you are receiving, and seem to be demanding to know just exactly what the hidden network is, and what it's for.
They aren't required to notify you of an update, nor anything about it, unless it directly affects your service. It didn't. They aren't required to tell you what the hidden network is, nor what it's for, beyond the explanation that has already been given, and that was most likely a courtesy that wasn't required, either. You immediately assume that it could be something nefarious. First, it can't be accessed by anyone. Second, there are laws governing what can and can't be accessed by a provider, and this hidden network isn't something to circumnavigate those laws. They aren't spying on you.
That you don't like the answer you received is just something you're going to have to deal with. No one is having fun with "clueless banter." That you turn it off? Fine. I have it turned off, too.
Being cautious is fine, and even good. Demanding more information because you don't like the answers you have already received is another story. You are in no position to demand anything regarding this hidden network, nor the update that contained its implementation. It's there. It's for a future service. It's not spying on you. No one can utilize it at this time.
With that, I will comment no more regarding your posts. Good day to you.
To add: At least with me, the tone is basically due to demanding further explanation. That's all. Asking is one thing. Demanding is another.
Or use a third party router as I would do if I ever did go to Gen 5, problem solved. I like having a router that shows usage by device, the HT2000W does not.
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I dont understand, from what posts I have read I did not see anything being ignorant or attacking. Maybe the comments about it being used for a popcorn maker? If so, they must not have seen the video about Gen5 which was made as a joke, where this comment came up. It was not made to be ignorant or anything to anyone, just a joke. Other than that I do not know.
NO
MarkJFine wrote:When was the last time you were given notice of an update and what was in that update.
Does it help you to know that I was formerly in the cyber security buisness for a major defense contractor and I'm still telling you there's no issue?
NO
So clearly the answer is "NO".
Oh well... Sorry to hear that. Can't please everyone.
MarkJFine wrote:When was the last time you were given notice of an update and what was in that update.
Does it help you to know that I was formerly in the cyber security buisness for a major defense contractor and I'm still telling you there's no issue?
I think it's likely to make the user even more nervous.... Are you part of this evil, Mark? ARE YOU??? :)
Y'all can have your fun and clueless banter, however, I have completely turned off ALL wifi from the Gen5 modem and am using my Asus router exclusively.
It is a problem when asking Hughesnet about changes that are seen and no explanation has been made. It is also a problem when "so-called" experts are rude and condesending to members asking or stating concerns.
I choose to be cautious rather than be naive. Also, the rude responses are not expected from members that are supposedly knowledgeable. When tempted to be mean, log off.
I'm sorry you feel that several people who have tried to properly inform you didn't give you the answer you wanted.
That's not being rude, it's trying to be informative.
Quite frankly, the only one who continues to take a rough tone in this thread has been you, but we've overlooked that.
Again, I'm sorry you feel this way, it is certainly not our intent.
You'll pardon my "clueles banter", but tone is as tone does.
BirdDog wrote:Or use a third party router as I would do if I ever did go to Gen 5, problem solved. I like having a router that shows usage by device, the HT2000W does not.
That's my issue with my netgear router. It gives total traffic, but doesn't break it down. Total is better than nothing, though, and most likely more accurate than Glasswire, I suppose.
If I used my laptop on a more regular basis, I might invest in one of those Asus routers that can utilize the Merlin software/firmware.
Arrogance is ignorance.
I do not have to accept your arrogance in your answers.
This forum is SUPPOSED to be helpful. You're arrogance IS NOT HELPFUL.
Attacking a member is counterproductive and only serves to cause other members to fear asking simple questions. Backoff and HELP the community instead of being bullies with harmful responses.
No one was attacking you, yet you seem to be taking a lot of this personally.
This conversation is done as far as I'm concerned.
Have a nice day.
First question asked about hidden network. After thinking about it I asked 2 more questions.
I do not believe that Hughesnet is being transparent. I do not buy that they can do what they want and we have no choice.
When members ask specifically about the "Hidden Network" no explaination is given.
The "supposed experts" on this forum also have no answers as to the "hidden network". They chose to attack members wanting to know what is going on. WHY?
I'll just leave it at that.....
lake_woman
We honestly can't give anymore than what we already know with out taking wild guesses which may or may not be true.
Hughesnet will tell us what it's there for, if, and when, they decide to enable the use of the network. They have traditionally been more transparent than other internet providers in the past, however before new products come to market, they remain tight lipped about things.Then DO NOT attack members wanting to know what is going on.
Plain and simple, you guys do not know what the heck is going on. DO NOT ATTACK MEMBERS ASKING VIABLE QUESTIONS. There are reasons that you cannot answer. MYSTERIOUS!
