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Sales Call Review

we recently agreed to sign an agreement with Hughesnet after speaking with several salespeople and reading the webpages such as this one below on this page.   https://www.hughesnet.com/about/hughes...
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we recently agreed to sign an agreement with Hughesnet after speaking with several salespeople and reading the webpages such as this one below on this page.

 

https://www.hughesnet.com/about/hughesnet-gen5

 

It clearly says I will experience \"If you exceed your monthly plan data, you will experience reduced speeds, typically1-3 Mbps, until the next billing cycle.\"

 

I am a CISCO engineer who works constantly through the internet. my required speed is around 56kbps. or around 256 kbps for some jobs. I was told repeatedly that when my data plan was used the 20 Gbs no problem my speed would be reduced to 1 to 3 mbps. That 1 MBPS is still acceptable, however since having the internet for 2 months, we have found that even when I disconnected everything, and I use a fresh OS install connected by ethernet we get speeds WAY under 1 mbps.

 

When I contacted customer support I spent 6 hours of my time-wasting asking for them to check my connection only to have them refer me to the FUA.

 

I want someone to check our sales call and tell me why we are getting speeds way under 3, or 1 mbps?

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Who told you that you were going to get 1-3Mbps?  This is not a guarantee. 

 

According to the Fair Access Policy, \"The speed of the Services may be reduced to as low as or lower than 1 Mbps.\" (Source:https://legal.hughesnet.com/FairAccessPolicyGen5.cfm)

 

 

icyman61 wrote:

invald?

 

I was told I would get 1 to 3 MBPS and I am not getting even 1 MBPS! Not even 1/2 MBPS.

 

So telling me I am going to get 1 to 3 MBPS and me not even receiving half of a Megabyte is not grounds for a sales call review?

 


 

 


 

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Who told you that you were going to get 1-3Mbps?  This is not a guarantee. 

 

According to the Fair Access Policy, \"The speed of the Services may be reduced to as low as or lower than 1 Mbps.\" (Source:https://legal.hughesnet.com/FairAccessPolicyGen5.cfm)

 

 

icyman61 wrote:

invald?

 

I was told I would get 1 to 3 MBPS and I am not getting even 1 MBPS! Not even 1/2 MBPS.

 

So telling me I am going to get 1 to 3 MBPS and me not even receiving half of a Megabyte is not grounds for a sales call review?

 


 

 


 

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invald?

 

I was told I would get 1 to 3 MBPS and I am not getting even 1 MBPS! Not even 1/2 MBPS.

 

So telling me I am going to get 1 to 3 MBPS and me not even receiving half of a Megabyte is not grounds for a sales call review?

 

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invald?

 

I was told I would get 1 to 3 MBPS and I am not getting even 1 MBPS! Not even 1/2 MBPS.

 

So telling me I am going to get 1 to 3 MBPS and me not even receiving half of a Megabyte is not grounds for a sales call review?

 

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@icyman61,

 

First, I stated that your \"equipment\" is fully operational. This refers to the equipment such as your radio transmitter and modem, as these are some of the things diagnostics can tell us. Secondly, your signal quality score is around 98. This is about 13 points above what we consider a great signal quality. The site history profile also shows it has been this way for many months. This eliminates an alignment issue as something relevant to your specific issue.

 

In order to check the weather, we use an internal tool that determines this by accessing your equipment remotely, as well as AccuWeather for confirmation. Both showed heavy cloud coverage at your location and Gateway. This is why I mentioned it. Your gateway is in San Diego, CA. While this location is usually sunny, it has not been for the past few days and looks like it will continue for a few more. This does not always cause an issue but because the speed tests for your account are not working remotely and there are no apparent equipment issues, it is extremely likely the cloud coverage is the cause for our time outs. 

 

As it stands right now, we have zero proof of your issue without the speed tests requested. I cannot launch an investigation without proof and documentation of your issue, especially if the reason for the sales call review is related to the amount of throttled speed you should be receiving. If you were misinformed about something else, not related to this at all, I could launch the investigation right away. This usually takes a full business week to complete. If this is the case, please provide a detailed explanation of something else you were misinformed on. If you are still planning to provide the speed test results that have been requested, I will be awaiting your results tomorrow and the original procedure will be followed as stated.   

 

-Damian 

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@icyman61,

 

First, I stated that your \"equipment\" is fully operational. This refers to the equipment such as your radio transmitter and modem, as these are some of the things diagnostics can tell us. Secondly, your signal quality score is around 98. This is about 13 points above what we consider a great signal quality. The site history profile also shows it has been this way for many months. This eliminates an alignment issue as something relevant to your specific issue.

 

In order to check the weather, we use an internal tool that determines this by accessing your equipment remotely, as well as AccuWeather for confirmation. Both showed heavy cloud coverage at your location and Gateway. This is why I mentioned it. Your gateway is in San Diego, CA. While this location is usually sunny, it has not been for the past few days and looks like it will continue for a few more. This does not always cause an issue but because the speed tests for your account are not working remotely and there are no apparent equipment issues, it is extremely likely the cloud coverage is the cause for our time outs. 

 

As it stands right now, we have zero proof of your issue without the speed tests requested. I cannot launch an investigation without proof and documentation of your issue, especially if the reason for the sales call review is related to the amount of throttled speed you should be receiving. If you were misinformed about something else, not related to this at all, I could launch the investigation right away. This usually takes a full business week to complete. If this is the case, please provide a detailed explanation of something else you were misinformed on. If you are still planning to provide the speed test results that have been requested, I will be awaiting your results tomorrow and the original procedure will be followed as stated.   

 

-Damian 

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\"I cannot launch an investigation without proof and documentation of your issue, especially if the reason for the sales call review is related to the amount of throttled speed you should be receiving. \"

so the fact that I was told I should receive 1 to 3 mbps after my data was used up is not an issue that is relevant?

 

That statement is why I purchased Hughes net.

 

Yet everyone seems to be saying it doesn't matter if the sale rep misrepresented that, it's ok if that's misrepresented.

 

Am i reading you correctly?

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\"I cannot launch an investigation without proof and documentation of your issue, especially if the reason for the sales call review is related to the amount of throttled speed you should be receiving. \"

so the fact that I was told I should receive 1 to 3 mbps after my data was used up is not an issue that is relevant?

 

That statement is why I purchased Hughes net.

 

Yet everyone seems to be saying it doesn't matter if the sale rep misrepresented that, it's ok if that's misrepresented.

 

Am i reading you correctly?

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icyman61 wrote:

\"I cannot launch an investigation without proof and documentation of your issue, especially if the reason for the sales call review is related to the amount of throttled speed you should be receiving. \"

so the fact that I was told I should receive 1 to 3 mbps after my data was used up is not an issue that is relevant? 


He needs speed test results to show that you aren't getting what you were told you would.

 

I understand you're frustrated, but you're making this much harder than it needs to be.  In the very first reply to your issue on your first thread I stated that they will need speed test results to move forward, and I gave the link to the instructions for those tests.  That hasn't changed.

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 wrote:

\"I cannot launch an investigation without proof and documentation of your issue, especially if the reason for the sales call review is related to the amount of throttled speed you should be receiving. \"

so the fact that I was told I should receive 1 to 3 mbps after my data was used up is not an issue that is relevant? 


He needs speed test results to show that you aren't getting what you were told you would.

 

I understand you're frustrated, but you're making this much harder than it needs to be.  In the very first reply to your issue on your first thread I stated that they will need speed test results to move forward, and I gave the link to the instructions for those tests.  That hasn't changed.

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