I find that the HT2000w router I received today is running Linux. Linux version 3.3.8 (bruce_ma@debian-wheezy-i386) (gcc version 4.6.3 20120201 (prerelease) (Linaro GCC 4.6-2012.02) ) #1 Fri May ...
I think your response may have been colored by the oddly aggressive posts by the other forum members.
As you can see in that old quoted thread, it was asking a wholly different question unrelated to this one.
The router of this modem *is* running Linux with Busybox. Both of which are under the GPL v2 license. It is not a question of what OS the modem's router is running. That is already clearly available from the modem's syslog as I quoted in the original post.
I think your response may have been colored by the oddly aggressive posts by the other forum members.
As you can see in that old quoted thread, it was asking a wholly different question unrelated to this one.
The router of this modem *is* running Linux with Busybox. Both of which are under the GPL v2 license. It is not a question of what OS the modem's router is running. That is already clearly available from the modem's syslog as I quoted in the original post.
sozoridge, I believe they are only required to provide the source code if they have made modifications (i'm assuming they have not). However I belive you are correct in they fact they should be acknowledging thier use of GPL software. Hughes should have something similar to this link. Here's another link to apples GPL page.
sozoridge, I believe they are only required to provide the source code if they have made modifications (i'm assuming they have not). However I belive you are correct in they fact they should be acknowledging thier use of GPL software. Hughes should have something similar to this link. Here's another link to apples GPL page.
No, it does not matter if it is modified or not. But compliance is quite trivial in that case, such as the two examples that you provided. Section 3 of the license covers this issue, here is public Q/A on the subject for clarification:
It's industry practice to publish the included GPL source/binaries. Everyone does it, including linksys, cisco et al.... There are no secrets here and nothing can be reverse engineered from it's disclosure other then the OS it's running. If Liz forwards this up the chain to the system engineers i'm sure they will quickly address.
Just to be clear, he's not asking for the source code of the modem's firmware, or any proprietary code at all, simply the source for the GPL used for the OS underneath it all, which is apparently a linux kernel running busybox
It's a fair question.... They appear to be running an un-patched and ancient version of BusyBox (circa 2011).... Which would/could be susceptible to multiple CVE's including most of these. By requesting the source, he will be able to quickly discern if appropriate patches have been refactored or not.
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I find that the HT2000w router I received today is running Linux.
Linux version 3.3.8 (bruce_ma@debian-wheezy-i386) (gcc version 4.6.3 20120201 (prerelease) (Linaro GCC 4.6-2012.02) ) #1 Fri May 5 05:26:51 UTC 2017 Jan 1 00:00:08 (none) kern.notice kernel: klogd started: BusyBox v1.18.5 (2017-05-05 05:04:25 UTC)
But do not see any offer to provide, or link providing access to, the source code, nor any statement that GPL license software is in use.
For your reference: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html -> \"if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that you have. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights\"
I'd like to be provided access to the source code. Thank you.
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sozoridge, I believe they are only required to provide the source code if they have made modifications (i'm assuming they have not). However I belive you are correct in they fact they should be acknowledging thier use of GPL software. Hughes should have something similar to this link. Here's another link to apples GPL page.
, I believe they are only required to provide the source code if they have made modifications (i'm assuming they have not). However I belive you are correct in they fact they should be acknowledging thier use of GPL software. Hughes should have something similar to this link. Here's another link to apples GPL page.
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sozoridge wrote:
As should be obvious, requesting access to the source code does not construe an intent to modify the unit.
Then what is the point in asking for it?
I can see three reasons. 1. To modify the unit. 2. To attempt to modify a 3rd party unit, or your own, to work with the service. 3. A right fight due to being dismayed with the service, as in, \"I'm angry, so I'm going to get them in some way.\"
With that said, maybe I'm just not seeing something.
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sozoridge wrote:
As should be obvious, requesting access to the source code does not construe an intent to modify the unit.
Then what is the point in asking for it?
I can see three reasons. 1. To modify the unit. 2. To attempt to modify a 3rd party unit, or your own, to work with the service. 3. A right fight due to being dismayed with the service, as in, \"I'm angry, so I'm going to get them in some way.\"
With that said, maybe I'm just not seeing something.
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Last response... I could care less if there is a difference between the \"modem\" and \"router\", you will get the same response that Jezra did.
I think your response may have been colored by the oddly aggressive posts by the other forum members.
As you can see in that old quoted thread, it was asking a wholly different question unrelated to this one.
The router of this modem *is* running Linux with Busybox. Both of which are under the GPL v2 license. It is not a question of what OS the modem's router is running. That is already clearly available from the modem's syslog as I quoted in the original post.
I think your response may have been colored by the oddly aggressive posts by the other forum members.
As you can see in that old quoted thread, it was asking a wholly different question unrelated to this one.
The router of this modem *is* running Linux with Busybox. Both of which are under the GPL v2 license. It is not a question of what OS the modem's router is running. That is already clearly available from the modem's syslog as I quoted in the original post.
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sozoridge, I believe they are only required to provide the source code if they have made modifications (i'm assuming they have not). However I belive you are correct in they fact they should be acknowledging thier use of GPL software. Hughes should have something similar to this link. Here's another link to apples GPL page.
No, it does not matter if it is modified or not. But compliance is quite trivial in that case, such as the two examples that you provided. Section 3 of the license covers this issue, here is public Q/A on the subject for clarification:
It's industry practice to publish the included GPL source/binaries. Everyone does it, including linksys, cisco et al.... There are no secrets here and nothing can be reverse engineered from it's disclosure other then the OS it's running. If Liz forwards this up the chain to the system engineers i'm sure they will quickly address.
Just to be clear, he's not asking for the source code of the modem's firmware, or any proprietary code at all, simply the source for the GPL used for the OS underneath it all, which is apparently a linux kernel running busybox
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Fine and dandy, but, as I said, they wont release any information in regards to it. Hughesnet has always been super secretive about that stuff.
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It's a fair question.... They appear to be running an un-patched and ancient version of BusyBox (circa 2011).... Which would/could be susceptible to multiple CVE's including most of these. By requesting the source, he will be able to quickly discern if appropriate patches have been refactored or not.