El Dorado, when and who were you informed of this by?Had convos with two of my (former) customers over the last few months who said the printed instructions mentioned returning of the LAN cable. Unlikely, but I'll see if I can get a copy.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"208","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-01-03T19:43:00.000-05:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-01-03T19:43:00.000-05:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":10030},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:HNSupport/community:ssqng67387board:AccountandBilling/message:37020/message:37040","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":true,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"269","rawBody":"
El Dorado, when and who were you informed of this by?Had convos with two of my (former) customers over the last few months who said the printed instructions mentioned returning of the LAN cable. 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Just come to say I was very, very wrong. I see in the instructions on our Knowledge Base there is the LAN cable there... I am supposing what is going on is we are asking for it back but we don't care if you do or not, we don't charge you for it. 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I am supposing what is going on is we are asking for it back but we don't care if you do or not, we don't charge you for it. 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Those things, even the molded ones, can be so touchy if bent a lot and who knows what abuse they've suffered.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"193","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-01-03T20:08:00.000-05:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-01-03T20:08:00.000-05:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":4312},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:HNSupport/community:ssqng67387board:AccountandBilling/message:37020/message:37042","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":true,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"193","rawBody":"I would hate to think HughesNet would send used cables out to new customers anyway. Those things, even the molded ones, can be so touchy if bent a lot and who knows what abuse they've 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Is cancellation fee waived when moving out of service area?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:37043"},"body":"Amanda: \"supposing\" swims around in the same pool as \"assuming.\" Perhaps you could find a supply of the word \"optional\" and give it to the instruction writers to insert into the appropriate places to reduce the panic level of those returning stuff you 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\"supposing\" swims around in the same pool as \"assuming.\" Perhaps you could find a supply of the word \"optional\" and give it to the instruction writers to insert into the appropriate places to reduce the panic level of those returning stuff you 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Is cancellation fee waived when moving out of service area?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:37044"},"body":"Hi Knerkin, when I say supposing I mean me personally think this is what is going on. We're getting more clarification from the Sr. Director of product services. He confirmed we do not charge for the LAN cable, in fact this is the first time I've ever seen it brought up, even then it was brought up by one our (awesome) dealer. If we're keeping it in the instructions we need to make changes to tell customers it is optional either on paper or time of cancellation. That is being worked out as I type this. I see from old manuals we've asked for the cable back since the HN7000 but I don't think we've ever had a panic situation about the cable.